Three masks amongst twelve customers in Bernard St Sainsbury this evening. No staff wearing them. Tomorrow, is it?
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Three masks amongst twelve customers in Bernard St Sainsbury this evening. No staff wearing them. Tomorrow, is it?
No. July 10thPosted 3 years ago # -
This won’t be news to some people here...
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Most people experience Covid-19 as a short-term illness: once the infection has been fought off, they bounce back to health. But evidence is emerging of a significant minority – sometimes referred to as “long haulers” – who struggle with long-term symptoms for a month or longer. Anecdotal reports have abounded of people left with fatigue, aching muscles and difficulty concentrating.
Online support groups on Facebook and Slack have sprung up, already hosting thousands of members who say they have not got better.
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The coronavirus may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favourable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert has claimed.
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@cocoshep
readers comments at end of this article are instructive
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/06/coronavirus-covid-19-mild-symptoms-who
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No need to go to England for a beer now, beer gardens open today.
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"fatigue, aching muscles and difficulty concentrating"
Sounds more like couch potato excessive screen time syndrome.
Methinks after effects of COVID-19 likely to be a tad more severe/debilitating/chronic than this, e.g. "facial paralysis, seizures, hearing and vision loss, headaches, memory loss, diorrhea, serious weight loss"...
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@chdot - the claims about early emergence of this coronavirus have been treated with strong scepticism by other scientists.
And also
Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30% of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.
“The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.
The explanation for Western Samoa is that it was brought to the island by passengers on a trading ship.
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/influenza-pandemic-hits-samoa
This guy works for the Centre For Evidence Based Medicine. It doesn’t give me a great deal of confidence when he’s writing articles like this.
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I'm intrigued by the possibility of medical practice that's not informed by evidence. Homeopathy aside, obviously.
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It's really nice to se all the kids out in the street playing again, enjoying the sun being kids.
I suspect our 5 year olds mental health will take a turn for the better over the next few days. He's been bordering on depressed for some quite time now.
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@Bax
Thanks, I saw that article a bit earlier today and there was an hour long phone in this morning on radio 5 Live. It's amazing the number of people coming out of the woodwork with these complications. Myself included, had a major relapse recently and ended up in A&E. Four things scaring the life out of me at the moment:
1. How long for long-tail covid/post-covid to run its course, and is it all uphill from here?
2. Has there been a cover up of these long term symptoms and the true extent of the virus?
3. Given the health implications that are coming to light, why are we opening the taps again and accepting another wave in winter?
4. That 'Herd immunity' was actually a bona fide official UK government approach and that they were willing to let this thing rip right through our population.
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That 'Herd immunity'
wasis actually a bona fide official UK government approachPosted 3 years ago # -
3. Given the health implications that are coming to light, why are we opening the taps again and accepting another wave in winter?
initially i thought it was to give cover for no-deal brexit but since we're already all resigned to that, the oncoming winter death terror must be spun as a need to urgently restructure the NHS
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Spain's coronavirus antibodies study adds evidence against herd immunity
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/health/spain-coronavirus-antibody-study-lancet-intl/index.html
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Our glorious leader on the news sitting down to a nice table served coffee. Presumably the message is everything is good now, go out and spend your money.
I'll be keeping mine in my pocket in the house.
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From @chdot's link...
5% of population has antibodies, that fits with other large scale antibody studies.
Doesn't mean 95% of population are susceptible though, some models suggest between 20% and 50% of population could be susceptible to the virus.
That said even if it were the lower number the devistation still to be unleashed doesn't bear thinking about.
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The number of unemployed people in Britain could soar to almost 15% of the working population if the country experiences a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation & Development (OECD) has said.
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/07/uk-jobless-rate-coronavirus-oecd-unemployment
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The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, has reversed a decision to force workers to pay income tax on Covid-19 tests purchased by their employers.
HMRC guidance published this week stated that workers would face a taxable benefit in kind when their employer pays for coronavirus testing, meaning a reduction in take-home pay.
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Edinburgh pub owner: Risk health or liquidate...
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/risk-health-go-liquidation-owner-18572072
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The latest Scottish Covid-19 travel statistics are out. The key headline for CCE:
Cycling trips down 1% on the same period in 2019 (29 June - 5 July)
Possibly related, car trips now at 70% of normal. This figure is likely to be an underestimate, as it only measures traffic on trunk roads. I suspect that long distance leisure and business trips are still to fully recover, while local car trips seem to be back to near normal levels.
So well done City of Edinburgh Council - the figures now prove that the moment to lock-in that increase in cycling has passed. Perhaps you can launch a consultation to understand why this might have happened.
Also, did I mention trips by foot are down by 45% on the same period last year. Not surprising, given that social distancing is impossible on most streets. EDIT - walking trips have been lower than last year during lockdown, but the last couple of weeks have seen the numbers fall further. Honestly, the way this data is presented makes it almost impossible to work out what is going on.
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@Morningsider, depressing but unsurprising.
I wonder if some of the decrease is explained by fewer folk commuting to work? A lot of people still WFH or furloughed.
Instead of walking to the office (or a small number cycling there) locals are jumping in their cars to beauty spots for some walking (of dogs, kids, adults etc.)
Mind you, a lot of folk would have already off abroad on hols by now in normal times, the state school term having ended. So it must be really quiet out there on the active travel front...
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I only filled the active travel survey once to try to win a prize. I did not bother logging my daily commute out the house up to Kelly Syke or Murder Farm each morning and back. What was the point in that?? Normally I do it 7 days a week being a keen bunny
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I wonder if some of the decrease is explained by fewer folk commuting to work?
I agree with you. I used to cycle everyday to commute and now, it's only to exercise from time to time, only when weather is nice. Could the weather also influence this? I see that for the previous week, cycling was up quite a lot, and the period documented here has been wet and cold.Posted 3 years ago # -
So, facemasks are vital to control the spread of the virus amongst shoppers but are unnecessary in a pub?
Either they're effective and should be deployed everywhere or they're not and it should be up to the individual.
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I'll add another anecdata point to the pool.
I've gone from cycling every day, walking to the local shops and running 3-4 a week to almost complete isolation, though I am running a little more than a few weeks ago.
I'm driving more than I am cycling at the moment, 1-2 trips to the supermarket for bulky stuff and a couple of trips a week to my parents now to help with childcare.
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