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Our school has been pretty firm, and said any child with a cough, even if clearly just a cold should not attend school, and should isolate. Half the playground was coughing last weeek, and the boy also had a cold, which means I now do.
5 months of lockdown, and we wearen't able to eradicate the common cold...
"Speaking on Monday, Education Minister John Swinney said it was common for "colds and similar viral infections to circulate" when pupils returned from a prolonged break.
"In many cases children will be well enough to attend school and continue their learning with little or no interruption to their education," he said.
"In other cases, for instance where they have quite a heavy cold with a runny nose, they may need to take a day or two off to recover.""
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Scotland finaly announces track and trace app.
Will it learn from the debacle in England and go straight to the Apple/Google app, or will it try and bodge one it's self only to fail later?
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It'd be madness to do anything but the Apple/Google route now. Apple just released an OS update which means that people can receive notifications even if they don't have a health app installed which increases the utility massively. You can't report yourself as infectious without the approval of a health board but you can receive notifications.
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@Baldcyclist, yep our youngest was off with a bad cold towards the end of last week. Back at school from yesterday, but we parents both came down with it over the weekend. I'm nearly back to normal this afternoon after a miserable time trying to sleep last night.
I suppose this does rather show that if Covid hits schools, it will be back in homes very rapidly...
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Visiting restrictions reimposed in Glasgow:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53989021
Although pubs/restaurants remain open.
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Looks like the word-of-mouth/anecdotal evidence is true
"More than 100,000 pupils in Scotland are absent from school with attendance down to 84.5%, according to Scottish government figures."
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Also anyone with a child at school has a cold now
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I have two social engagements in cafes in Glasgow on Sunday. I've asked both parties if they wish to go ahead.
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Glasgow locked down by Sunday?
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Would be my suspicion.
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Apparently people (mainly Tory) are getting confused by the fact that English and Northern Irish quarantine rules differ from the rest of the UK. People going abroad a small minority now and probably not that keen to repeat experience after being warned endlessly that quarantine lists can change in a matter of hours.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18698594.we-shouldnt-be-confused-uk-quarantine-rule-differences/
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Traffic wardens out at Tinto Tearoom this morning. That is a remote spot but parking has been interfering with the farmers harvest, cones for a mile down to thankerton to prevent parking on verges. South Lanarkshire Council have installed porta-loos At the Tinto Hill car park removing the non-patrons using the cludgie at the tearoom but the owner still has to patrol her car park to clear out free-loaders.
Interesting Tinto Tearoom fact - it used to be a petrol station.
Decent tailwind helped us catch young lad from Wakefield but he got away at the Doldrums area just before Balerno where the tailwind abates. His bantz were good for a youth
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People out at Holyrood demo. 'Say no to vaccines, MSM conspiracy on pandemic etc, 5G weakens immune systems but useful to post protests' etc
Must say I don't agree - turnout quite large and would expect Police Scotland to take action as was clear breach of distancing.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/CoronaVolunteeringEdinburgh/permalink/338417214022265/
Local charity looking for volunteers to prep and deliver food to people in food poverty (a state of affairs that should disgust us all in a wealthy nation in the 21st century but I digress). Form includes an option to volunteer to do deliveries by bike. Trailers and cargo bikes probably very useful.
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Watching the CV update from ScotGov for the first time in quite a while.
Today seems like quite a good day to return to 2 walks a day...
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"French Prime Minister Jean Castex to have COVID-19 test and self-isolate after spending Saturday with Tour de France race director, Christian Prudhomme, who tested positive."
https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-8-september-2020-277081
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Related to the anti CV events last Saturday & Sunday in Edinburgh & Glasgow.
You know things are getting bad when George Galloway's new Alliance for Unity party appears on the scene. Idea is to get large marches going to converge support for preservation of UK with Covid denial? Hancock already uses language about the virus coming back to our shores again (ie it's just not British).I've actually heard someone repeat some of this false figure narrative.
Prospective MSP Linda Holt, former depute leader of the Conservatives on Fife Council, has accused the First Minister of "panicking" on local lockdowns and presenting exaggerated data on the pandemic.
The councillor, who represents the East Neuk and Landward ward, announced her Alliance for Unity candidacy earlier this week. She will stand on the regional list for Mid-Scotland and Fife.
"And of course we've got no deaths. So these numbers we get every day from Nicola Sturgeon are actually inflated. The virus is absolutely on its way out as it is in all the other countries in Europe and we do not have to be having all those extra lockdowns and panicking as Nicola Sturgeon is."
She went on: "I've had enough, I think we can go back to life as normal."
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"And of course we've got no deaths."
Except:
"...three people had died after testing positive for the virus."
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Dr Linda de Caestecker warned that the rise in cases in some local authorities could be driven by the hospitality industry. She said: "When we examine the rate per 100,000 population it is highest in West Dunbartonshire where many cases relate to family gatherings and parties. The next highest rate is in Glasgow city where more cases are associated with visits to bars and restaurants."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54069310
Oh aye, everything's back to normal. Not.
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Social gatherings of more than six people will be banned in England under new measures designed to be easier to understand and enforce.
Boris Johnson will say tomorrow that meeting in larger groups for fun will become illegal in England from Monday as ministers try to prevent a sharp increase in coronavirus cases leading to a second wave of deaths.
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Some of the technology it would require does not yet exist.
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@chdot: Interesting. The app downloaded, installed & runs on my phone, which suggests that it doesn't use the contact tracing update Google released for Android. My phone is running a version of Android that was released in December 2016, and hasn't had any OS updates since.
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@crowriver: Yes, I spotted that too. Unfortunately the way the numbers are presented - Nicola's figure, as I saw it reported, doesn't seem to have a time period associated with it, for example - seems to leave a lot of room for both sides of the argument to 'spin' the data.
But that would be just a distraction anyway - there's no point trying to nit-pick figures with someone who is batshit crazy anyway.
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Weirdly ScotGOV have taken the decision to not use the native Apple/Google app, but instead use an app which is built by a 3rd party company - the same one who built app for Ireland and Gibraltar, which is based on the Apple/Google app (or actually API).
So we have an app that is usable in Scotland/Ireland/Gibraltar (being sold as an advantage, "common travel area"), but nowhere else in the world.
If you're sat on a bus next to someone from Manchester, or London, or anywhere else in the world who then tests +ve when they get home in a few days, no notification.
(appreciate England doesn't have app yet, but it will be Apple/Google one)
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@ejstubbs, that's odd because when I checked it out on Google Play (on my laptop) the compatibility list included none of my phones. Requires Android 6 apparently.
I will check if any of my phones will see it on Google Play but I suspect not... Family members will be okay as they all have newer phones.
Guess I'll just stay in the house for the foreseeable then. ;-)
@Baldcyclist, if you, or that person from Manchester, or London, or anywhere else in the world doesn't have a reasonably up to date phone then you're out of luck anyway, it seems.
I can see the conspiracy theories already. The 5G Illuminati caused the virus, and now they're forcing everyone to buy new phones to help avoid the virus, and the phones will all have 5G...
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@crowriver: Requires Android 6 apparently.
That would explain it then: I have Android 7.
A thought: given that Android is open source, might it have been possible to reverse-engineer the code in the Android update into their app so that it works on older versions? I can understand Google not updating non-supported versions (mine is not supported) but if the fundamental capabilities exist in the OS then putting the functionality in the app rather than the OS would seem to be potentially feasible.
I said when the Apple/Google update first came out that it would exclude anyone who doesn't have a device that runs a supported OS version. It's an infrequently-discussed weakness of the Android model IMO: Google focuses on new version releases - and thus dropping support for older versions - and a lot of the phone manufacturers struggle to keep up, or just don't bother. It seems bordering on criminal to leave a £300 phone that's less than four years old without security updates.
So yes, it does feel a bit like a conspiracy theory to have a business model that could be interpreted as forcing people to spend hundreds of pounds every couple of years or so in order to upgrade their hardware. And the "bundled" contracts that the cellular service providers operate, which encourage customers to roll their extortionate contracts over in return for a new phone every couple of years, seems designed to support that model.
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@ejstubbs I believe the contact tracing update is part of Google Play Services, not the base OS. Google couldn't possibly rely on phone manufacturers to ship this update as most of them don't update phones at all.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/9888358?hl=en
Google Play Services is quite regularly updated, and presumably you have the right version for the phone to run the app.
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