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  1. minus six
    Member

    But implicitly I'm not allowed in her home!

    unless you are carrying two bathroom taps and a spanner

    that would be your undoing here

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    These are office workers hands. More likely to be trying to fix the WiFi.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. acsimpson
    Member

    "unless you are carrying two bathroom taps and a spanner

    that would be your undoing here"

    Leave the spanner behind and the undoing will become impossible.

    Are under 12's exempt from the 2 household rule or just the rule of 6 (local version)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    if yer mate shows up at the door with a six pack o beer and a claw hammer, then you're golden

    Clearly you haven't met my mates. I'd be terrified.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Morningsider
    Member

    @acsimpson - official guidance for meeting outdoors is:

    Under-12s do not count towards the maximum number of households or number of people who can meet outdoors. Under-12s do not have to physically distance
    Meeting indoors (but not at home) and the two household rule applies to children under 12, but the children do not count towards the "six".

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    How is age determined for the 'under-12' rule? Can I self-identify as an under-12 or is it a matter of documented reality?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    IWRATS don't be silly.

    Mr fimm and I were due to go to his parents in Austria this Christmas. Clearly that isn't happening. Never mind, we'll go to my parents instead. Only now we can't do that either. (Well, we could go and sit in the garden all day...)

    I'm wondering if, if case numbers come down sufficiently, they might allow some relaxation over Christmas. Or would that be a recipe for one giant superspreading event?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. amir
    Member

    "I'm wondering if, if case numbers come down sufficiently, they might allow some relaxation over Christmas. Or would that be a recipe for one giant superspreading event? "

    It always is, in many senses

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    @fimm, it seems you have answered your own question.

    Thousands of folk travelling all over the UK at Chrimbo/Hogmanay seems, at best, inadvisable in the midst of a pandemic with no vaccine or effective treatment as yet.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @fimm

    How can a question be silly?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. sallyhinch
    Member

    "I'm wondering if, if case numbers come down sufficiently, they might allow some relaxation over Christmas. Or would that be a recipe for one giant superspreading event? "

    It always is, in many senses

    I still have a cherished memory of my sister turning up for a family Christmas with her two recently-recovered-from-norovirus kids 'don't worry, we're no longer infectious'.

    Reader, they were.

    On the positive side, it was one way not to gain any weight over the festive season.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. minus six
    Member

    Leave the spanner behind and the undoing will become impossible

    i set 'em up, you knock 'em down !

    family Christmas with her two recently-recovered-from-norovirus kids 'don't worry, we're no longer infectious'.

    ditto... the horror...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    So - outbreaks at Napier, St Andrews, Aberdeen, Abertay & Glasgow unis. Going well, isn't it?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    If I remember correctly students lick each other quite a bit.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. Ed1
    Member

    I wonder the implications for different house holds meeting in holiday houses or do holiday houses now need to be in berwick upon tweed for different house holds in Scotland to go on holiday in one house

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. sallyhinch
    Member

    I heard they were thinking of human challenge trials of the vaccine among young healthy volunteers. Perhaps they could kill two birds with one stone and test the vaccine on returning students, and let the poor sods enjoy freshers week.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. chdot
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  18. chdot
    Admin

    A cluster of around 100 Covid-19 cases in Iceland have been traced back to two French tourists who refused to isolate, a local newspaper reports.

    The French pair arrived in Iceland in mid August and were instructed to remain in isolation after testing positive for the coronavirus, the country’s chief epidemiologist Þórólfur Guðnason said.

    “I have information that it was difficult to get them to follow instructions,” he stated. “I really cannot say more.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/25/coronavirus-live-news-france-sees-record-new-cases-virus-may-be-becoming-more-contagious?page=with:block-5f6db83b8f082a8cb2133a92#block-5f6db83b8f082a8cb2133a92

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    Britain, nation of DILLIGAF (sorry, "freedom loving") people.

    We're all doomed. Doomed I tell ye!

    ---
    John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch
    Absolutely damning data on the complete failure to follow Covid-19 guidelines in the UK
    • Only 18% of people self-isolate after developing symptoms
    • Only 11% quarantine after being told by NHS Test and Trace that they’ve been in contact with a confirmed case

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1309148871730368518

    ---

    "Key reason given for not quarantining [after being contacted] included: not thinking it was necessary to stay away from people outside your household as you could not stay away from people in your household"

    ---

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.15.20191957v1.full.pdf

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. acsimpson
    Member

    @Crowriver, Is that more or less than the percentage who adhere to the rules while driving?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. crowriver
    Member

    @acsimpson, that thought had occurred while reading the research data. Reckon compliance with some rules is probably higher that that on the roads, otherwise the collision rate would be astronomical. Speeding, overtaking and parking, however...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. acsimpson
    Member

    @Crowriver, yes speeding was the one which came to mind. I suspect even "First free on red" is only applicable to <50% of drivers but amber gambling could be approaching Coronavirus levels of disobedience. I suspect that the cause is the same though, ie they don't believe that there will be any personal repercussions if they are caught. Higher fines might be one solution but I think it has to be combined with better support for those who can't work while isolating.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. nobrakes
    Member

    Bogroll aisle empty in Asda tonight. Predictable but somehow extremely depressing nonetheless.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    Not again!

    (Luckily I refreshed our loo roll supplies a couple of days ago).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. wee folding bike
    Member

    I'm impressed that the virus can tell the difference between a 17 year old at school and one at university.

    Got some bog roll in CostCo last week. Should last a while.

    And I don't remember that being a feature of the 1919 flu.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. crowriver
    Member

    Are there many 17 year olds at university these days? No gap years for the scions of minor gentry, country doctors and head teachers anymore?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. LaidBack
    Member

  28. gkgk
    Member

    >I'm impressed that the virus can tell the difference between a 17 year old at school and one at university.

    I think it's more that many schoolies spend the summer mixing w/ only a few pals, parental curfew, no cash etc.

    On uni Day One, they get £2k, no curfew, 2000 new chums (pollock), shared dining room, planned social mingling activities, a private bedroom, party time. Also quite a lot of pressure to get out and socialise, I remember.

    Virus doesn't have to be the Brains of Britain to spot the difference there.

    Interesting talk of students flitting home after their 2 week halls stint. Upcoming Surrey Surge maybe.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Decided to risk going to IKEA earlier, first time since lockdown started, maybe first time this year. What an incredibly stressful experience. All the store shortcuts closed so had to walk the long way to the scented candles. Mask compliance fair to middling, with some people wearing them around their chins and who didn't care to be reminded of the fact.

    I shan't be going back in a hurry.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. nobrakes
    Member

    Meant to be running mini nobrakes down south to start uni next wed. Long drive - big fear is dropping him off then having to go back down a week later and pick him up again. He’s been super careful through lockdown and is a bit stressed about the whole situation. They’re being put into small household bubbles of 6 as far as I can tell. Only your household allowed in your communal kitchen etc. He doesn’t drink or want to start so I’m hopeful he’ll keep his head screwed on. Feel really sorry for all the young uns though, compared to the fun we had in freshers week. I didn’t have my head screwed on at all at that age, so I do have sympathy for them.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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