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Do we need a coronavirus thread?
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Well, what a surprise. Not.
"People from Edinburgh and Glasgow have been piling on trains across to Fife to go to the pub. I've seen packed trains with the vast majority of passengers drunk."
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“Lockdown showed that the people of the UK want to get out on their bikes but only if conditions are made to feel safer,” added Mitchell. “The vast majority of people support councils’ improvements for cycling. We can’t – and I won’t – let a small minority of people pressure our councils and Governments into going back to a pre-COVID era that put motorists first.
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https://www.bikebiz.com/cycling-uks-new-ceo-starts-vows-to-keep-britain-cycling/amp/
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Melania’s cough still lingers
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Ms Sturgeon said the five-tiered approach was "very logical” and already applies in Ireland and New Zealand.
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The next four months may be one of the hardest periods of your life – Professor Devi Sridhar I have to level with you.
The next four months are going to be rough and might be one of the hardest periods in your life.
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Five-level lockdown system unveiled for Scotland
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How many Covid tier levels - it's the new Gillette Vs. Wilkinson Sword.
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@morningsider - razor sharp as ever.
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Cutting
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We failed totally from the start to explain this as a risk management exercise, and the various templates, and directives in terms of the risk management hirearchy - perhaps a moderator can assist by loading some of my COVID risk management images.
Both English & Scottish Governments failed spectacularly in not delivering for managing COVID infection risks with transport, and also failing to deliver tight enough regulation and resources to care homes. Perhaps easiest to present this as a list with the basic explanation of risk management hierarchy
Blue Zone - 100% exclusion of the hazard (separated cycle path/railway with all trains stopped/cordon sanitaire robustly maintained for care home - all inbound staff/supplies sanitised/quarantined/tested or travel out in virtual cordon conditions ie 'clean' cars vs 'dirty' cars)
Green Zone - never in same place at same time (level crossing barriers/traffic signals that are obeyed - Kinetics operates this to hand over bikes - come out, place bike & clean it, retire & recipient advances, cleans bike & collects, all using SMS and line of sight in open air
Yellow Zone - no less than 2 metres for no longer than 15 minutes, regular sanitising, face coverings, limit on numbers, well ventilated (Lancet figure 1.3% risk of infection)
Orange Zone - under 2 metres for longer than 15 minutes, regular sanitising, face coverings, close proximities, enclosed spaces = trains, buses &c (Lancet figure 2.6% risk of infection)
Red Zone - CV19 wards, high risk area requiring full PPE, airlock access with contraband rules on clothing, equipment etc passing through cordon (Lancet figure 13% risk of infection)Death rate figures for vocational motor vehicle drivers are a national scandal - with taxi drivers dying at 4 x the rate of NHS staff who including those actually working in Red Zone conditions (for England ONS figure = 36.4 deaths/100,000 in employment category, for Scotland, smaller sample size for all drivers 25.7 - but of the 29 deaths 10% were Glasgow Taxi Drivers, and a further 10% 'other' taxi drivers)
Bus drivers are separated for ONS - 26.4 death per 100,000 but London spiked out with 32 bus driver deaths, in a workforce of 25,000 - that's 129 deaths per 100,000, around 15 times higher than the average death rate for England
Yet it took until June 19th for Scottish Government to issue 'advice' on taxi safety with included the OPTION to fit screens and as far as I'm aware not a single Council has suspended taxi and PHC licences for cars with no internal screen between driver and passengers, for around 20 hires per day. By contrast reports indicate that the Scottish Government official cars were rapidly fitted with internal screens - do report back with DM on what's happening with your Council - tellingly the cluster of CV19 cases at the Newark food factory were linked to the way that employees travelled to work, in shared cars
As yet no directives on taxis or buses, although the Welsh Government has actually closed rail stations where social distancing was not deliverable - makes one wonder about some Scotrail stations, this being Finnieston ranked 340th busiest in UK with just a single 1.2m wide staircase as access to the trains...
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If Americans would stop complaining about face masks and wear them when they leave their homes, they could save well over 100,000 lives — and perhaps more than half a million — through the end of February, according to a study published Friday in Nature Medicine.
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Interactive map - maybe been pasted here before.
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview
Edit: need to copy and paste whole string above to see neighbourhood map
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there is no routine data collected on how well requests for 14-day isolation are adhered to, rendering it essentially impossible to know how effective NHS Test and Trace is in reducing transmission.
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To put this in context, £12bn is more than the entire general practice budget. The total NHS capital spending budget for buildings and equipment is just £7bn.
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From Monday -
East Lothian: Level Three
Midlothian: Level Three
City of Edinburgh: Level Three
West Lothian: Level Three
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The First Minister added some areas including Edinburgh, East Lothian, the Borders, Argyll and Bute may soon see their levels reduced
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Also from Monday travel restrictions will mean that people in tier 3 areas will be advised not to travel out of their local authority area, rather than their health board area as previously. So no more popping out to Roslin or Penicuik for a while. No more trips to Straiton (no great loss there TBH). In theory I'll even have to be careful where I go in the Pentlands, even just starting from home and going on foot. Along the ridge from Caerketton to Allermuir via Windy Door Nick would be OK but woe betide me if I were to stray south of the ridge line. Threipmuir, Harlaw, Clubbiedean and Torduff reservoirs are OK but not Loganlea or Glencorse.
As it happens I have an appointment in Shawfair on Monday, but in that instance I can at least justify it on healthcare grounds.
And if Edinburgh does get downgraded to tier 2 at some point, would West Lothian and Midlothian still be out of bounds (assuming they were to remain at tier 3)?
I think I might be making a trip to Aberlady tomorrow to practise my newly-acquired wildfowl ID skills while I still can...
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But you are ok if you are doing it for exercise
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yep - Level 3: Travel
"No non-essential travel into or out of the level 3 area
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shopping health etc; outdoor exercise; weddings and funerals; and transit through restricted areas"Posted 4 years ago # -
Cool, so ikea is back on the menu!...
No non-essential travel unless you want to.
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“There is no great mystery about the cause of the Covid-19 pandemic, or of any modern pandemic,” said Peter Daszak, the chair of the group convened by the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services, (Ipbes) to produce the report. “The same human activities that drive climate change and biodiversity loss also drive pandemic risk through their impacts on our environment.”
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@unhurt: Thanks, I hadn't picked up on that. However, that "etc" seems both lazy and leaving the door wide open for people to do (as Steveo says) what they like. It's not the only bit of poor wording on that web page. Anyone care to try to make sense of: "Sports and exercise...Outdoor – all except adult (18+) contact sports (professional permitted)"? Once again I am disappointed at the apparent inability of professional communicators (i.e. politicians and their servants) to be able to explain things clearly and, where possible, concisely when the situation demands it.
Overall, though, tier 3 actually seems to be rather less restrictive than the current regime with, for example, reasonable-looking exceptions allowed for the travel restrictions* and hospitality venues permitted to re-open for limited hours during the day.
* Though I'm doubtful whether said exemptions include driving my car to Loanhead for its increasingly overdue service. But maybe that comes under "etc".
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Level 3 measures will allow restaurants in the Capital, which have been closed since mid-September, reopen from Monday, November 2.
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"Sports and exercise...Outdoor – all except adult (18+) contact sports (professional permitted)"
Means what it says - for over 18s all amateur outdoor sports are OK, except contact sports. Under 18s - all allowed. Professional contact sports still permitted.
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You were allowed to get an MOT during full lockdown; garages are open and working - that seems self-evidently a necessary journey.
NB if you both want concise clarity AND detail on every possible personal situation this will be a bit of a difficult thing to fulfill, professional communicator or no.
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“if you both want concise clarity AND detail on every possible personal situation ...”
Indeed.
There are people intent on ‘doing the right thing’ and others really not bothering, masks, distancing and parties.
The problem of ‘messaging’ is probably worst around the exceptions. No cups of tea inside with neighbours, family and friends but anyone can come in to do work. Which seems reasonable on various levels, but there’s no suggestion they should wear PPE (and they generally don’t).
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The face coverings that performed best in our filtration tests were able to block more than 99% of bacterial particles penetrating the mask material, while the worst managed a paltry 7%.
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https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/10/which-face-mask-tests-reveal-huge-differences-in-filtration/
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