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  1. chdot
    Admin

    “EL saw the biggest surge in cases“

    Shopping in Edinburgh or visits from Edinburghers??

    Don’t suppose anyone will ever know.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    House parties in Tranent and Musselburgh? Care home outbreak? Folk eating out in pubs?

    Could be any of them, or all of them combined.

    EL Courier pins the blame on Musselburgh, Prestonpans and Tranent:

    Case rates have spiralled in East Lothian, with 140 cases in the week up to Saturday, December 12, making a rate of 130 per 100,000 people. These included 30 new positive cases across Musselburgh, 27 in Prestonpans and 29 in Tranent.

    https://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/18945698.east-lothian-moves-level-3-surge-coronavirus-cases/

    In contrast, the Haddington, Dunbar, East Linton and Gifford areas have much fewer cases proportionally while the Gullane and North Berwick areas have only a couple of cases.

    https://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/18944058.december-14-coronavirus-update-east-lothian-cases-still-rising/

    (EL Courier trying to blame Embra folk for "booze tours" but the pattern also fits the profile of poorer folk suffering disproportionately...)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    My Mum's best friend has just passed away from covid-related complications, and their partner also has it.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Was talking to a colleague yesterday who said she, her husband and her child would decline any vaccine. She is not mad and didn't just mean that she'd wait and see how others reacted.

    I do not know what her plan is. Domestic herd immunity or lifetime lockdown.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Do they all have nut allergies?

    Does the child get a say?
    Does the husband agree?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    No, I have eaten nut-based cake she made. The child has no say. The husband well I don't know. Works night shift doing something quite grim so may have lost some resilience.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Christmas party might be cancelled...

    "Ministers from across the UK are discussing the five-day easing of restrictions at Christmas, amid pressure to scrap the plans"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-55313964

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. AKen
    Member

    The jet-ski story from yesterday really intrigues me. It's a quite intrepid venture - as well as obviously being incredibly stupid. It does prompt a few questions:

    What's the range for a jet-ski? It took four hours to make the trip, which amazes me as I imagined that these were basically toys with no need to have the tank capacity to run for hours.

    How did he navigate? I've no idea if the Isle of Man is visible from where he started in Galloway but the vantage point from a jet-ski is pretty much at wave level. It would just need a bit of drizzle to obscure visibility and you lose a sense of direction.

    What kind of sea conditions can a jet-ski handle? Limited to moderate swells and liable to be swamped if it gets worse?

    What was his contingency plan? I'm guessing he didn't have one. Obviously it was planned - he chose about the shortest crossing to the IoM available but thought it would take 40 mins and it actually took 4 hours - so whatever planning he did do was way off and he could have ended up drifting to a watery death in the Irish Sea with an empty fuel tank.

    It's the kind of thing you might do as a stunt with a support boat on hand - not as a clandestine voyage to a closed island.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The IoM is clearly visible from Whithorn in normal weather. Given the guy didn't even take the bus to Douglas I think he must have been in quite a special place mentally.

    Great kudos for the adventure though.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. AKen
    Member

    I hope his girlfriend thought so.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. wingpig
    Member

    Is there any record of how many times he fell off and whether any bus drivers refused him entry as he would have soaked their seats?

    I'm sure there are action/spy films where jetskis are depicted as the quick/stealthy option for sneaking somewhere, which may have been a factor as well as presumably being cheaper to hire than a proper whole boat.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    A Yamaha Waverunner, for example, carries 16 gallons of fuel and is rocking a supercharged 1.8 litre engine. Larger machines might carry 20 gal, smaller machines, perhaps 10 gal.

    Since no jet ski has an odometer the consumption is measured in gallons per hour, dependent on how enthusiastically one rides. A four hour trip could quite reasonably use all of the fuel, so unless he carried an auxilliary tank, which is not uncommon, we're looking at no more than about 4 gal/hr really, and if it was a smaller machine, perhaps 2-3 gal/hr, which is at the low end of most jet ski performance and pretty modest speeds. The shortest crossing would be about 20 miles so a 5mph average is pretty wild. Do we know where he started and finished?

    Edit: Ah. Isle of Whithorn to Ramsey, so 25 miles and Beeb says 4.5 hours. He was using a Sea-Doo Spark 2up, which has a 900cc engine and takes 6.6 gallons of fuel. It'll reach 50mph in good conditions, and averages 7.9 gal/hr. No aux tank, so perhaps no wonder he had to keep the speed down.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    More not good news -

    one in five infected people may suffer from long Covid, says ONS

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/dec/16/brexit-updates-johnson-uk-eu-agreement-deal-live

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. Frenchy
    Member

    @Arellcat - Sure I read yesterday that he went from Isle of Whithorn to Ramsey, which is about 25 miles with perfect navigation.

    The bit about him expecting to take 40 minutes made me think he must've looked up the max speed of his jetski, and calculated the journey time based on that. Then he discovered waves.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    “A smaller Christmas is a safer Christmas”

    “A shorter Christmas is a safer Christmas”

    (Boris)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. nobrakes
    Member

    Stay at home
    Protect yourself (from the in laws)
    Save sellotape

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    The corps is mother, the corps is father.

    (might be a bit too oblique)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    Re: Isle Of Man incident. Once Brexitania has shrugged off the mantle of the ECJ and ECHR, the Manx courts may decide to re-introduce birching for such offences. Part of their "outsiders bring trouble" mentality.

    https://iplayerhd.com/player/video/b1dce95d-918b-4e81-a13a-35cbcf04f2e9

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    @steveo, Once we understand the bug, we will defeat it.
    (Would You Like To Know More?)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I know the Isle of Man quite well. They take their rules very seriously. Used to pass rainy days reading about High Bailiff Michael Moyes' sentencing of miscreants.

    Their key secret is that they have exported all of their crime. They keep the dodgy money safe on the understanding that organised criminals and other low-life stay away. I know of one chip shop owner used to give anything in the till at the end of the night smaller than a tenner to his kids. He also took a suitcase of fifties to the Isle of Man every year. Man is a pirate base.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. minus six
    Member

    sounds like the isle of bute in reverse

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Possible they are entangled for sure.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. crowriver
    Member

    I've been to the Isle Of Man, as a teenager, after they abolished the birch. Nice place I seem to remember. Went sea kayaking and pony trekking among other organised activities. Not sure I'd go back these days, even if the place wasn't closed.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    French president M. Macron tests positive.

    Third person in charge of nuclear weapons to get the disease. At least.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. gembo
    Member

    Feckin edinburghers going to North Berwick for a pint?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    Hardly any cases in North Berwick. EL cases mostly in Musselburgh, Prestonpans, Tranent.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Feckin edinburghers going to the Goth in the. Pans for a pint?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. nobrakes
    Member

    Slight digression but many years ago in a funk band we once played a stag do in Craigmillar miner’s club. I’ll never forget us turning up in full funk gear and the guy behind the desk taking us in and asking suspiciously, “are yis members?”

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    @nobtrakes, Sour Grapes Bunch?

    Posted 3 years ago #

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