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  1. gembo
    Member

    Van never shy of legal actions.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. Baldcyclist
    Member

    There was suggestion recently here that the reason Scotland didn't lockdown earlier was because there was no furlough scheme available to it. Of course that would have been a practical reason for not to, but it wasn't the reason. The Scottish Govt's messaging in the weeks before lockdown strongly suggested shaking hands, going to the pub or large gatherings, hugging your granny was all fine and also reference from our CLinical Director that lockdowns don't work.

    Thread with a selection of various news interviews/Covid briefings (radio and TV) with First Minister, Health Seceraty, the then CMO, and our Clinical director:

    https://twitter.com/blairmcdougall/status/1270837534738825216?s=20

    The notion Scotland wanted to lock down but couldn't is simply wrong, thankfully that advice is in the past, and the Scottish Govt *now* do seem to be in the buisiness of following the science.

    Also if you look at some of the tweets from Jan/Feb/March from public health scientists the advice from them was clear to lockdown hard early. UK and ScotGov hand in hand simply ignored...

    (Could equally go in the Scottish Parliament election thread.)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. minus six
    Member

    good find, @baldcyclist

    raise the double standard

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Yeah, that'll happen...

    "London Marathon organisers are "very optimistic" a record 50,000 runners will be able to take part in the race when it is held on 3 October."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/55724620

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Beebly Radio Gaga Sextant Musak News making a big noise about Glasto being called off for the second time. Ticket rollovers, musicians and local economy losing income, etc.

    Can the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe be far behind in announcing similar?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. steveo
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    You've got a thing about the festival don't you.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    @steveo, come again? What "thing"?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    Since the pandemic started you've had a special glee about the festival not going ahead.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. minus six
    Member

    aye nae fringe festival again this year but i'm sure they'll find a way to keep on cheerleading for underbelly’s hypnotic stranglehold on public arts funding

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    @steveo, my position on the festival is the following.

    a) - I enjoy the Edinburgh festival's cultural offering (particularly the official festival and the art festival) and believe it is on balance A Good Thing.

    ii) - The Fringe has become far too large over the past decade and needs scaling back. The impact of this huge event on the city has become overbearing, and often feels utterly disconnected from the needs of residents (as distinct from businesses that make money from it). The pandemic has done what the city worthies could not or would not. We need to rethink the role and business model of the Fringe - if it manages to survive at all.

    3(x)) - The winter festival (Xmas market, Hogmanay street party) is a bag of shecht and needs axing altogether. I attended the street party over twenty years ago, and it was a bit rubbish even then. I cannot imagine it has improved much since then. This massive commercial crapfest should be consigned to the dustbin of pre-Covid history and Underbelly's contract terminated forthwith.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. minus six
    Member

    but steveo was.. how do you eenglish put it.. making the joke, yes ?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. crowriver
    Member

    @bax, I resent his inference that I take glee in the festival's demise. I do not.

    Am I glad that the "Summer Sessions" will not be happening? Or the "German Market" at Yuletide? Yes.

    But broadly, its a shame the festival cannot happen. Will it ever return to "normal"? That has to be in doubt.

    The reason I keep posting about the festival is because I care, goddammit! (As USAnians would say).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. minus six
    Member

    inference that I take glee in the festival's demise. I do not

    i say kill it dead, and pilton pop, just tear it all down

    from these ashes strange new forms will emerge

    rough beast slouching bethlehem etc

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. minus six
    Member

    Ministers are considering paying £500 to everyone in England who tests positive for Covid-19, in a dramatic overhaul of the self-isolation support scheme, the Guardian can reveal

    .. that is feckin bananas ..

    Unconditional Universal Basic Income NOW

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    I resent his inference that I take glee in the festival's demise. I do not.

    Then I withdraw the inference. :)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. ejstubbs
    Member

  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    The suburb with Scotland's highest mortality rate

    Took me a while to find out the boundaries of this 'suburb'. It's not a parliamentary constituency, UK or Scottish, it's not a council ward and there's no community council by that name. I eventually managed to track it down here: turns out it's a "2011 Data Zone" which seems to contain a fairly high proportion of golf courses and agricultural land. (I think it's best to open the embedded map in full screen if you want to see the detail of its geographical extent.)

    I've wondered for some time why the Covid stats on the official interactive map are much less granular for Scotland - where they only go down to local authority area - compared to England where, for example, the city of Hereford with a population of 200,000 contains half a dozen separate areas for which stats are individually available. It looks like the data is being collected at a more granular level in Scotland - as one would reasonably expect - but for some reason it's not being made readily available through the main coronavirus.data.gov.uk web site.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    @ejstubbs - More granular data for Scotland is available on Public Health Scotland's website.

    "View Cases by Neighbourhood" then select "City of Edinburgh" from the drop down menu near the top.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. chdot
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  22. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy: That still only goes down to local authority area, same as coronavirus.data.gov.uk. So City of Edinburgh gives data for half a million people, but in England you can get data for areas as small as Leominster North which is about 6,000 people.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    Choose "View Cases by Neighbourhood" then select "City of Edinburgh" from the "Select Local Authority" drop down menu near the top.

    It breaks Edinburgh down into ~100 areas of population ~5000.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    @ejstubbs, Stamford Hill's an interesting place. I lived there for a bit when I worked in London.

    According to locals, the Hasidic Jewish community are very much a law unto themselves. There was a murder there some years ago, and the police were getting nowhere with their inquiries. So they approached the community leaders, the culprit was spoken to and turned himself in!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy: Ah, got it, thanks. I'd swear I didn't get that when I looked earlier this morning. Maybe my browser was having a brain fart. Or maybe I was.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

  27. Baldcyclist
    Member

    PM: New Vaiant may be more deadly...

    Stay at home folks.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55768627

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. crowriver
    Member

    Oh no. Cases in Edinburgh relatively low lately, but could change I suppose.

    Judging by Easter Road this afternoon, lockdown is not quite as locked down as March was. Really busy, lots of folk in twos and threes window shopping, standing in shops discussing which wine to buy, etc. Traffic as busy as a normal Friday (not helped by Leith Walk diversions). Almost as busy as the pre-Xmas rush in fact.

    That was my first time out of the house properly in days. We're only going out for food shopping just now as it's not much fun exercising in ice and slush. My kids went out briefly at midnight the other night to throw snowballs.

    Reckon we'll be heading out as little as practical given the needs of food supplies, exercise and (when it gets slightly less icy) the allotment.

    Really sympathise with those who have to go out to work at the moment.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Lang Whang pretty busy. Maybe timed my Run badly and coincided with the famous early Friday half day closing rush hour.

    Was fine. Snow plough did t(e business two days back.

    Bit icier than yesterday.

    Truly glorious winter wonderland. The nearly one year old Clydesdale foal at ainville also majestic in field across road from it’s old Ma.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. crowriver
    Member

    Yeah could have been poor timing on my part, but I was a bit surprised by how busy it was out.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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