Some good news :)
One of the neighbours who I helped with groceries last year got their first vaccine dose today.
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Do we need a coronavirus thread?
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My dad has been granted the ability to request an appointment but is currently looking at a 53-mile drive (to a relative hotspot) for the first injection, with no slots available twelve weeks later for the second. He was vaguely wondering if it was going to be possible to avoid having to make four trips, but my mum is two years younger and hasn't had her invite yet.
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My mum had her first shot last month, second one is in March. She's a care home resident.
I'm assuming it was the Pfizer vaccine given the timing of first injection.Posted 3 years ago # -
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Grant Shapps faces fury over mass Covid outbreak at DVLA
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Ministers are at the centre of an explosive row over their failure to protect workers from Covid-19 as the Observer reveals the largest workplace outbreak of the virus has taken place at a top government organisation.
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“ New Zealand reports first case in the community in months” BBC report
“Health officials said a 56-year-old woman who had recently returned from Europe tested positive 10 days after completing a compulsory two-week period of managed isolation.
Contact tracing efforts are under way, and authorities have published a list of locations the woman visited.” Better than trying to keep it secret, IMHO.Posted 3 years ago # -
Two charged over lockdown breach after hill rescue
Two women who were rescued from Ben Lomond have been charged with breaching coronavirus regulations. The walkers, who were in their 20s and from Fife, called for help after getting into difficulty in poor weather at about 14:00 on Saturday.
Lomond Mountain Rescue Team said the women were near the summit of the Stirlingshire peak when they raised the alarm. They were helped to walk off the hill and were not injured. Police Scotland said the women were charged in connection with culpable and reckless conduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55787147
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So that's a criminal record if convicted...
"From 10 December 2007, the maximum penalty that may be imposed in summary cases is 12 months imprisonment and/or a £10,000 fine."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff_court#Remit_and_jurisdiction
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Don't think perusing a criminal prosecution for people who call out mtn rescue is a great idea. Next time a person might make a silly decision and get themselves killed instead of getting help.
Yes they shouldn't have been so stupid as to be out there but once they have phoned mtn rescue its setting a dodgy precedent.
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@steveo, presumably if they had obeyed the law by exercising within five miles of their local authority boundary (they live in Fife) then the call to mountain rescue might not have been necessary?
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Looking like some enforcement/policing of exercise radii going on at Hillend today (Midlothian side) when I was on my way back from a ‘permitted purpose’ (!). Place rammed with vehicles and police speaking to them. PS FWIW I’d probably agree with the prosecution above if I’m honest
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@crowriver No I agree they should not have been there but since they were, encouraging people to risk their life is difficult moral position.
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Very high levels of traffic today, particularly on the East Lothian coast road. I'm not sure what that says about the lockdown.
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“not sure what that says about the lockdown“
A lot of people don’t know/understand the rules.
A lot of people don’t care about the rules.
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@amir: I noticed an unexpectedly high volume of traffic on Oxgangs Road yesterday afternoon when I popped out to Morrisons. At the time I put it down to the snowy & icy conditions putting people off walking or cycling. But coming down off Allermuir this evening the traffic on the bypass looked pretty normal i.e. as if no travel restrictions existed.
@edinburgh87: I think the enforcement at Hillend might have been because the car park was closed (there were barriers across the access road) and people were dumping their vehicles willy-nilly on the A702. I'm not sure about lockdown enforcement: according to the regs it's fair game if you live in Midlothian or Edinburgh.
The road to Old Swanston was parked up down one side for a good part of its length - as far as and on to the bridge over the bypass - when I walked down there about 14:30 today. It was causing a fair amount of congestion because it effectively reduced the road to one lane for a good couple of hundred yards. (Funny how it's OK for random drivers to unilaterally choose to reduce two lanes to one and thereby create congestion, but not for the democratically elected council to reduce four lanes - two of which are barely used - to two with more or less zero impact on traffic flow.)
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Over to Lang Whang via Leyden Rd / Ormiston today.
Selm Muir car park very busy - sure I saw sign there for Little Vantage too? My trike was getting in way of some big cars out on exercise missions. Drivers ok though.
On the black A70 so many walkers out with car parks full.
Balerno population out in force on Cockburnhill Road walking and scooting. Met a family with lad cycling a pedal quad bike with a trailer. Also let the Graham's milk truck by -getting off my trike and carrying it onto snowy verge. He was on uphill on narrow road. I don't mind as some people are working.
Met a forumer today too. He spotted me (not hard).Posted 3 years ago # -
@laidback, there is a footpath from Kirknewton (well the first bit might be Leyden road) anyway from Selm Muir wood there is a path via the Wigwams to little Vantage. Road there was rammed. Very good conditions for thieves road type walk. Does mean the road gets covered in the ice from the car park and the thoroughfare is impeded a little. Road surface not fab there either.
As you may have heard me banging on about this before. I will keep it brief. The Victorians used to take the train to East Calder Halt (now called Kirknewton station) then walk over the Pentlands and get the train home from West Linton, possibly needing to change at Leadburn? There is a thread here somewhere about that an an information board put at thieves road.
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"encouraging people to risk their life is difficult moral position."
Er, no. The police were enforcing the regulations and instigating a prosecution because in this case, there was not only a blatant breach of the regulations but also there must have been clear evidence of "culpable and reckless conduct".
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"A lot of people don’t care about the rules."
I've heard opinions from "experts" that 90% of folk are complying with the rules. However, even if that's true (it's a figure mostly based on self-reported behaviour, so take with a juggernaut of salt) that leaves 10% who are not complying.
Say for example 10% of Edinburgh, Midlothian folk decide to get in their cars and drive around East Lothian, despite being in breach of the regulations. That will be a lot of cars on the road... Even if it's only 1%, that's still massive congestion on single carriageway winding roads.
It only takes about 20 to 30 vehicles to create a big tailback on a single carriageway road...
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I just checked and from the the westernmost point of Fife to Ben Lomond by road is 42 miles. So an 84 mile round trip. And that's assuming the two hapless hillwalkers were from near Kincardine rather than, say St Andrews or Kirkcaldy.
Throw the book at them, I say. Totally out of order. "Egregious breach" personified.
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Er, no. The police were enforcing the regulations and instigating a prosecution because in this case
Then they should not have reported it as they did. Because next time some poor moron might die rather than ask for help.
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@gembo - "The Victorians used to take the train to East Calder Halt (now called Kirknewton station)"
Original station was on the line over to Carstairs and closer to Ormiston / Leyden. The new 1860? station was moved east to beyond junction and closer to Kirknewton to serve both lines. When I lived in East Calder it was called Midcalder despite being closer to Kirknewton. OT meandering (!)
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@steveo I see where you are coming from but I believe the polis are trying to stop the morons go8ng hillwalk8ng out of area. Rather than stop people phoning the Rescue?
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Aye that's fine and if they were doing this at the bottom of hill in the baggers car park then fine. Otherwise charge them and keep it quiet.
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"I've heard opinions from "experts" that 90% of folk are complying with the rules"
If true, 90% doesn't seem high enough. Especially if their actions mean the lockdown has to be longer
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@laidback, I am thinking around 1875 for the walkers. Free time as such was only invented in late Victorian era. See also HG Wells Mr Kipps store clerk’s freedom via cycling in the 1890s.
Interesting detail about the stations. The carstAirs junction line comes past cobbinshaw Loch at Woolfords. It often then goes right to Haymarket before stopping but must join the shotts line somewhere. I am going to guess around Livingston? I can picture it actually at Harburn so heafing into Dedridge /Livi south? Then the one line to Kirknewton and curriehill? These days?
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@Laidback: Original station was on the line over to Carstairs and closer to Ormiston / Leyden. The new 1860? station was moved east to beyond junction and closer to Kirknewton to serve both lines. When I lived in East Calder it was called Midcalder despite being closer to Kirknewton. OT meandering
I can't find any evidence in books or maps of the station serving Kirknewton having moved since it opened. If you look at it using the NLS Maps georeferenced maps function it's still in exactly the same place now as it was before the Clelend and Midcalder line line was built. It was built on the Carstairs line because there was no Clelend and Midcalder line at that time: that line was opened in 1869, branching off the Carstairs line at West Calder junction which is a good half mile to the west of Ormiston. I can't find any evidence in books or maps of the station serving Kirknewton having moved since it opened, nor does the arrival of the Cleland and Midcalder line appear to offer any reason for it to have done so.
It's true that the station has had a number of changes of name. According to Wiki the station serving Kirknewton was called "Kirknewton" when the Carstairs-Edinburgh section of the Calendonian Railway main line opened in 1848 but its name was changed to "Midcalder and Kirknewton" two months later, and then just "Midcalder" in 1855. It finally reverted to just "Kirknewton" again in 1982.
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@ejstubbs - unless there was another station or halt? Info came from my brother.
@gembo called it East Calder Halt. Was going to have a look at maps. Great resource for finding missing stations (such as Finnieston on the Queen St low level - getting very OT now!)Posted 3 years ago #
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