I am far more disturbed than I ought to be by the poor data in recent days and prospect of several days more without data.
I clearly need to get a grip.
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Do we need a coronavirus thread?
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Covid in Scotland: Three quarters of adults have had booster jabs
More than three quarters of adults in Scotland have received their Covid-19 booster vaccinations. The Scottish government had set a target of getting 80% of eligible adults and young people boosted by the end of the year. By 30 December, 77% had received the jabs. The government said high infection levels had meant thousands of people had to delay their appointments.
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I can't find the *beeb article on this now, but latest data shows the booster is good for about 10 weeks. So I guess we'll all be getting a 4th jab before the end of winter.
*Sure beeb said 10% effective after 60 days.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/covid-vaccines-compared
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The 10 weeks decline is protection against *infection* but protection against *hospitalisation* remains high
https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1476934583878889473?s=21
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@Baldcyclist, if that's the case, seeing as I had my booster a month ago I'll be needing a 4th dose in mid-February?
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Had my booster this morning ended up opting for Ingleston and drove. Glasgow road gives me the heebbies at the best of times never mind in poor weather.
Loads of younglings getting their jags presumably stuffed in the car by their parents under threat of losing WiFi privileges. :)
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People struggling to get lateral flow tests for Covid “should just refresh” their webpage, the education secretary has suggested, as concerns mount over the impact of the Omicron variant on the country’s workforce.
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(England, no idea if better/different here.)
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Handing them out like Christmas presents at Ingleston.
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No shortage of LFT kits at my local pharmacy.
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Certainly seemed to be a reasonable stack of kits at my local pharmacy last Friday (we don't need more ATM so I didn't deplete their stock). Given that it was New Year's Eve one might have expected a blip in demand from people wanting to test themselves before going to gatherings of family or friends (within the ScoGov mandated guidelines).
There is some discussion online and in the "MSM" (yeeuch) as to whether some people may be overdoing the testing. AIUI (though happy to be corrected) the NHS requirement is for staff to self-test twice a week. It seems that a proportion of (over-cautious?) civilian folk are testing themselves daily, which seems difficult to justify in comparison - and some may even be doing it more frequently than that, which is probably pointless.
I do wonder whether such behaviour might have been at least encouraged by the recent TV ad campaign urging to people to test themselves regularly without being particularly specific about what that meant in terms of frequency.
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oh well
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The sole distributor of Covid lateral flow tests (LFTs) to pharmacies closed for four days over the Christmas period just as it received a delivery of 2.5m devices, it has emerged.
Alliance Healthcare took delivery of the tests on Christmas Eve and then shut, the Times reported. It provides LFTs to pharmacies to give out to the public.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/03/uk-covid-test-distributor-shut-christmas-25m-kits
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Took mini-Morningsider for his second jab at the EICC drop-in clinic this morning (first day for 12-15 year olds). In and out within half an hour. Very few youngsters there - possibly due to the sign at the door saying over 18's only!
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Went with my youngest to EICC for their second dose today. Long queues for drop-ins, quite a few teens but slower for under-18s as needs a registered nurse to administer the vaccine. Despite being pretty busy, the whole process was quietly efficient and staff were great.
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Welsh FM not holding back about England's failure to align with rUK.
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1479457382937808899?t=3LQ3mjB_ZHeuvbUOASdRGg&s=19Posted 2 years ago # -
His case would be stronger if England didn’t have the lowest rate of COVID prevalence of the UK nations just now…
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England has the highest prevalence at the moment, at least according to the ONS. 1/15 for England rather than 1/20 for Wales and Scotland.
Not much in it of course.
Edit to add the link
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Yes, atm I would tend to believe the ONS survey more than the case data, at least at national levels.
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I bought a lateral flow test from Chronomics the other week, as my pre-return to the UK test for my ski trip this week. Then they relaxed the rules so that I didn't need it any more. Chronomics gave me a full refund, and told me not to bother sending the test kit back, which makes me think that the kit itself probably costs in the region of pennies when manufactured and bought in the quantities that they are being used ATM.
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The cost of LFTs is closer to a couple of pounds. $5 is a commonly quoted figure and the UK Government paid Innova £800m for 380m LFT tests.
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While levels of walking and cycling have risen in the capital, the overall proportion of people making sustainable journeys has fallen as a result of the collapse in numbers using public transport.
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Everything going well with our other parliament I see! PM has now collapsed standards so low that anything really goes down there. Surely something can be hung on Holyrood to take the heat off? Best hope is that Scotlands 'excessive' Coronavirus measures have actively increased cases here and that we would have been better throwing in our lot with BJ and chums. BBC and opposition certainly reminds people that ScotGov is not very successful on pandemic management and always out of step (!)
Meanwhile England shows how to have fun with a party culture government, bending rules and reality and still beating Covid! So much more grown up than the miserablists on the celtic fringe.I am angry and depressed that people even try and defend this excuse for a PM. His rule free, moral free, fact free landscape is a threat to a 'cohesive' society - maybe more in England but it also has a resonance here too.
On media today we hear of the hate and division this has caused. Is this part of their plan as we blame each other for trusting others honestly and at face value? Stories of people being remote from dying relatives mixed with other revelations of (ordinary) people sneakily breaking rules. (Ok to say now that UKGov did it!).
Faragist types love this as they will suggest all politicians are at it and even claim this new low standard is all we can expect- hence my depression.
When people say how Scotland has only just managed to keep cases at 1 in 20 we have to remember that many visitors were here over holidays. ScotGov rules are not enforced anymore than England's ones. Many on holiday probably not aware of variations to rules here. Saw loads of transgressions over break.
Anyway I look forward to this being a turning point. Record numbers in hospital now as wave moves through.Posted 2 years ago # -
He’s lower than a snake’s belly but the Z-listers wheeled out today to defend him on the media circuit (Fabricant et al) have no self respect at all
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3 jobs Douglas Ross thinks PM should resign as he broke law and misled WM parliament.
On LBC some blue on blue aggro as southern based Tories don't appreciate comments from up here. Gove also has put him down.
On Ross' previous support for Johnson, Mogg continued: "People do sometimes vote for people in leadership elections who don't live up to expectations but I don't think Douglas Ross is a big figure. I think Alister Jack is really serious and senior figure."
Dale said that comment "almost illustrates why Douglas Ross has said this, because to say that the leader of the Scottish Conservatives is not a big figure in the Tory Party..."
Cutting Dale off, Mogg said: "He has been constantly in opposition to the Prime Minister, whether that is Brexit... He is not somebody who you would ever expect to say helpful things about the Prime Minister."
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Jeezo who'd ever want to be leader of the Scottish Tories eh.
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I saw this one on Twitter and it's too good not to share:
A major moment today as Douglas Ross, Scottish Tory leader, has called for Boris Johnson to resign AFTER talking to the PM. "What in the call made you take that stance?" I asked Ross. "He called me Ruth," he said, sadness in his eyes.
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DOUBLE-JABBED Scots are now more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than the unvaccinated amid an increase in elderly people falling ill due to waning immunity.It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.
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Don't know if it is weird, isn't natural imunity from catching covid more effective than vaccine immunity?
Unvaccinated may have been more likely to catch Covid already and therefor have better immunity now, to those that have waneing vaccine immunity.
(of course they are predominately young and so may have gotten less *personal benefit from the vaccine in the first place)
*not discounting the obvious community benefit to mass vaccinated population during more dangerous waves.
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Yeah how is this "weird"? Vast majority are vaccinated. Therefore most people who get infected will be vaccinated. Omicron variant is better at "immune escape" i.e. can bypass the vaccine in some cases. Nearly all older people are vaccinated, and older folk more likely to end up in hospital due to poor health generally. It's not rocket science!
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