“Off licenses added to list of essential shops”
Yeah that’s upthread.
Yet another reason it’s impossible to take Gov’s ‘stay at home’ message as honest.
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Sorry #steveo. My wife, who is a surgeon, begs to differ.
Fair enough.
Genuine question, not trolling. But can you're wife point me at some science behind the 2m logic? My google fu has failed me.
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She says it’s simply based on how far the droplets can go. (Or at least a significant number of them). The harder you exhale the further they go. It’s a ‘safe’ distance but it doesn’t absolutely guarantee that transmission can’t take place.
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Mrs LB agrees. We went for walk round Arthur's Seat and generally people are keeping distance. Lots of bikes Inc families. We walked on road to respect people's space. No cars as hill road closed!
Seen couple of younger groups of three or four bunched together. Two weeks from now any small thing that has delayed the spread will have been worth it!
Our next walk will avoid park as really just too busy, as is canal towpath.Posted 5 years ago # -
“but it doesn’t absolutely guarantee that transmission can’t take place”
That’s essentially always true.
2m is the distance ‘most’ droplets won’t travel.
Little is said about how long things will hang in the air - it’s aerosol not raindrops.
No one seems to know how much it’s ‘bad luck’ if one bug reaches you. But the extent to which medical staff are suffering suggests it’s worse with more than one.
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Supermarkets are being given access to a government database to help prioritise food deliveries for elderly and vulnerable shoppers who have been ordered to stay at home under the government’s coronavirus crackdown.
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Supermarkets probably know more about us than the government, Google certainly does.
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Off licences make sense if it keeps people out of supermarkets.
I wonder how many supermarket trips have been just for booze in the last few days.
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It does but would need to set the Delorean back for 20 years to find one in most areas
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@laidback Seen couple of younger groups of three or four bunched together.
Some of those might be flatmates - a lot of people share nowadays well into 30s (or later).
Re: offies: I for one am not going to complain about the operation of decent booze shops in these trying times. Especially if it means I can spend money at small local businesses AND avoid the anxiety-provoking aisle distancing dance at Tesco or whatever. Though my local offie now delivers.
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@chdot, did the Michigan physician wash his own hands at the end? I kind of lost interest? Very clean house tho but only 2 bottles of wine
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Don't believe the myth that we must sacrifice lives to save the economy
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"A sustainable system doesn’t require the sacrifice of its citizens for its continuation."
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Did the shopping for Chateau IWRATS and my aged adoptees. All calm and done in good order. One in one out of supermarket.
Two Italian lassies wearing high-grade masks to shop seen outside smoking fags with the masks on their foreheads. Stylish.
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re: jason leitch twitter advice
phone 111 is something of a bad joke now, unfortunately
partner gave up after nearly an hour on hold earlier today
i can understand it, presumably its still primarily a call centre scenario, and you'd have to be raving mad to work in one of those environments right now
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@IWRATS - Was that at Sainsbury's? Long queue to get in? Many bare shelves?
Planning on doing shopping for us and our own aged adoptees tomorrow morning.
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@Frenchy
Aye, loon. Queued five minutes tops. No flour or rice, all else available in one form or another.
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Noticed that the smaller (i.e. no car park) shops have been much better stocked recently. Local Sainsbury's had soap, toilet paper and pasta. Wild.
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Seen so many, many cyclists (some looked recreational, some less recreational) on my way home last night. Normally I would see one person, maybe two max until I get to Edinburgh but last night I saw 3 people on bikes within the first 5 minutes.
When I checked my Strava for flybies, there was a long, long list of cyclists. You don't see that very often.
Also so many people (in couples, triples) walking along back roads: between and out of villages. Even when they were on pavements I went to the middle of the road to keep the distance.
Mr Bill says that his morning runs are getting busier as well and will probably have to find less popular time.
(My workplace is still open, those who need to be in, have to be in.)
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Re: alleged "locusts" (who are always other people - WE are just sensible and buying a wee bit extra, of course): This seems pretty convincing - from earlier in the week.
"I strongly suspect there isn't actually much panic buying or hoarding in the way we imagine. Supermarkets in the UK took £193.4bn in revenue in 2019, which is £3.7bn/week. £1bn extra has been added over 3 weeks: approx 10% rise per week for 3 weeks. That's small, give that...
Huge swathes of the population who were eating 1 (or even 2 or 3) meals out (cafe breakfast, Pret lunch, work dinner) are now home-working so eating at home & many kids aren't getting school meals. Inexperienced cooks, new to it, invariably buy too much (quantity & variety).
Then remember people are being encouraged to social distance, so they want to minimise shopping trips, so will get durables just in case (batteries, candles and - yes - toilet rolls). So the increase in purchasing is very modest, explicable, even justified. So why empty shelves?
UK Supermarkets are masterful: cheap goods at low margin in huge bulk, with highly sophisticated FMCG just-in-time supply chains. If you operate a Tesco Metro in Central London, you don't (a) carry excess stock (just exactly right amount based on models): wasted working capital
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So this isn't anti-social idiots stockpiling canned goods: it's every household adding £5 or £6 to its weekly shop. It's happening to a highly-calibrated supply chain that can replenish daily – because *there is no shortage* – but just can't keep the shelves full during the day.
I'm sure there are some people genuinely hoarding/stockpiling, even hoping to sell-on some goods at a profit, but they aren't the major factor. Don't think most of your fellow citizens are monsters. This is happening in the UK, but not abroad, b/c of supply chain "efficiency"."
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CMO for Scotland, thinks there are 40 to 50,000 cases in Scotland.
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Dunno about that. I saw plenty of people with trolleys stuffed full of bog roll a few weeks ago. One reason why supermarkets turnover hasn't gone up that much is because they run out of stuff to sell. The bottleneck is how much they can get onto the shelves due to abnormal demand.
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No, there's definitely panic buying going on. For around 10 days or so in Edinburgh.
Panic prescriptions is the new thing: folk "stocking up" on their regular medicine before they need it, "just in case". Pharmacists are seeing "unprecedented" demand...
Folk are fearful, and rational self-protecting measures, carried out en masse all at the same time, lead to the impression of "locusts" having visited.
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We have more food in the house than we usually do because we won't be able to go shopping for a fortnight if one of us gets ill, and we should be prepared for that.
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we were all told to get our prescriptions filled . that was one of the early pieces of advice.
also, there has been a lot of reporting on how much of our prescribed meds come from china, and how they were blocking export of some.
having spent last 6 months unable to fill essential prescriptions because of unexplained 'shortages', i don't blame people at all. i did not expect to have to go from pharmacy to pharmacy trying to fill prescriptions. Currently my chemist gets in a rationed number of medications, opens boxes and divides them among patients. it's ridiculous.
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That thread is interesting, there is a few daily mail burn them, a couple of whats the issue they're miles apart and a few nuanced but still you should be following the rules to the letter.
Oh and the few having a go at the police, mainly for wasting resources.
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