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Do we need a coronavirus thread?
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Viruses are subject to normal selection pressures - if they can sustainably happen to cause their host to spread them, they persist. We can't affect the characteristics of the diseases themselves that much but what we are significantly affecting is the biodiversity of non-human species; if we reduce variation in other species we make them more susceptible to a single disease being able to become endemic. If this happens to happen with a disease which happens to be better able to cross between species then there's an increased likelihood of crossing. The cataclysmicness to humans would really depend on what mix of mortality/communicability something has when it crosses or can develop once it adapts to human hosts.
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The Johns Hopkins map is very good (direct link) - interesting to see how China's containment methods appear to have mostly worked while the rest of the world is heading in an exponential direction.
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China's containment methods wouldn't exactly fly in the rest of the world.
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Grapevine reports of an Edinburgh Uni staff member case at the Western.
Perhaps not surprising as that is where all of the hospitalised cases are.
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My surgery sent an alert out today advising anyone with symptoms to stay away.
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“
EXCLUSIVE
Nadine Dorries, a health minister, has become first MP to be diagnosed with coronavirus
She has been in Westminster for past week, met hundreds of people, and attended a No 10 reception hosted by Boris Johnson on Thursday
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https://twitter.com/steven_swinford/status/1237503494325559296Posted 4 years ago # -
There's some hope, apparently she had a meeting with BoJo....
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Latest advice from National Clinical Director @jasonleitch including “don’t buy too much soap because everybody needs some”
Actually he approves of walking, cycling and general exercise - not that it will stop you getting the virus but at least your fitness can help to recover faster.
Jason Leitch has been all over media today. Main point I took was that we should remember that other viruses are still out there to - such as flu. Although as people wash hands and distance themselves the spread of flu should be diminished too.
A Scottish health chief has urged people to take coronavirus seriously as he revealed those with fewer symptoms could soon be advised to stay at home. https://t.co/MeoCdNloXL https://t.co/Ho8O1njA8W
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I am currently locked down in a ski resort in Northern Italy. Had a couple of skiing days on empty piste until the lock down started. Hoping to get a evacuation flight today. Then two weeks of self isolating at home. If you do spot me during that time please keep away!
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well well, what have we here.
slight increase in temp, headache, dry cough, hint of chest wheeze. second full day of it. and my partner works at the western.
if this is it, its really quite mild. and i can see how it caught on in italy, cos you could soldier on a while, thinking, surely this isn't it.
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https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
(link shared on Facebook by SRD)
Quote: "The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now."I think we should be locked down now and I don't think that is going to happen. So we're going the same way as Italy...
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look after yourself @bax
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thanks. i'm fine though, its a mild woozy affair. might as well self-isolate, no point seeking a test, we're all getting this.
everyone needs to watch their respiratory - seems the italian hospitals have seen lots of otherwise fit and healthy people requiring respiratory assistance after a couple of weeks.
thanks for that article link, its a must read.
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I'd be a little cautious about Pueyo piece - he's a popular writer not an epidemiologist.
His previous articles seem to be on eye catching topics.
Robert
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I've seen epidemiologists on twitter say similar to be fair.
@bax only counter to that is that as the case numbers in scotland are still small, the case tracing could be really useful and the genome sequences of the early samples so far have been very informative.
http://virological.org/t/update-report-of-covid-19-in-scotland-multiple-introductions/438
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Also, I had may as well self promote my response to the "2 strains" nonsense you may have seen in the news http://virological.org/t/response-to-on-the-origin-and-continuing-evolution-of-sars-cov-2/418
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@bax, take care.
@fimm, we're on a similar trajectory to Italy, we're just a couple of weeks behind.
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@roibeard - i made the same comment when i shared it on FB. but as others are saying, his data is similar to others, just written more popularly.
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I'd vote for people in Bax' position to book a drive-through swab as it's only increasing positive cases that will get us over into that phase two, with the proper measures. I wonder if the drive-through has a bike lane.
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the official position is that you only get a drive-in appointment to be tested if you have had direct contact with someone returning from the danger zone.
ie. there's nothing to see here, there's no evidence of direct community transmission in the uk, so just get on with it.
as i said last week - its poor leadership
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Public health england tracker - new form of 'dot-watching'...
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14
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bax, if you have it, and you think you got it from your wife, therefore she has it and she works in the hospital she should not be going to work...
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rest assured she hasn't left the house this week.
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@bax "the official position is that you only get a drive-in appointment to be tested if you have had direct contact with someone returning from the danger zone."
When and where did you get that information from? Have you called helpline 08000282816?
I can't believe that's the policy at this stage. If there's spare testing capacity, it should be getting used, we know there have been within-scotland transmission events
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Heard on the radio this morning that they were extending testing. It was the Today programme, though, so may only apply in England
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i'm no drivist so can't use their facility anyway. we're self-isolating meanwhile to be on the safe side. might just be a non-covid19 mild flu, who knows. the nation will find out soon enough, if and when the drivists get their tests.
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Surely they don't have a McDonald's style no cycling through the drive through rule.
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Surely they don't have a McDonald's style no cycling through the drive through rule.
Regardless of whether or not they allow bikes I wouldn't be advising someone who thinks they have a respiratory illness to cycle from Fife to the western for testing. I cycled past the testing station last week and I can't imagine that the security staff (with no face protection) will be keen on getting close enough to a cyclist to stop them from entering the testing station.
@Baldycyclist, Presumably your wife's work is aware of the situation with her at least and hopefully they will be providing her with advice regarding getting tested.
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@acsimpson
NHS FIFE expands virus testing capacity with new 'drive-through' arrangements
Over recent weeks a mobile testing team has visited a number of Fifers who have met the criteria for coronavirus testing set out by Health Protection Scotland.NHS Fife was one of the earliest adopters of the community mobile testing model, with specially trained nurses visiting patients in their own home to perform the necessary testing.
With growing numbers of people now meeting the criteria for testing, NHS Fife has established a ‘drive-through’ testing facility in the grounds of Cameron Hospital. This will supplement the mobile testing team, which will continue to operate across the Kingdom.
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