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  1. Baldcyclist
    Member

    @Laidback the figures announced at the daily UK govt press conference are UK figures.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    "Personally I think jogging should be banned.
    So easy to trip and need a trip to A@E.
    "

    Who are you quoting?
    As someone who both runs and cycles, I'm as likely to trip over running as I am to fall of my bike due to a pothole/misjudging a kerb/mechanical issue; i.e. not very likely in either case.
    If you are going to ban jogging/running for that reason, you have to ban cycling as well. That's the only logical conclusion.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @fimm I read that as ironical?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. fimm
    Member

    Ah.
    Apologies for grumpiness if so.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    So, emm. Do people here believe that the prime minister was at death's door in intensive care last week? What is the degree of credence?

    I have seen people in ICU and they did not frolic forth shortly thereafter. But maybe sometimes they do?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    @iwrats who knows? He seems to have had worsening symptoms and then since he is the PM was taken into hospital when any of us phoning 111 would be told to stay home and monitor. He then accessed oxygen when we would have had little chance and then as symptoms worsened they moved him to the ICU again as precaution? Th kiwi and the person from Porto kept vigil but no ventilator and no pneumonia and then back on the ward then out to Chequers. How much of this is accurate who knows.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    The Guardian article linked to by Baldcyclist is very scary & makes me angry

    the documents also appear to show the project includes large volumes of data pertaining to individuals, including protected health information, Covid-19 test results, the contents of people’s calls to the NHS health advice line 111 and clinical information about those in intensive care

    A Whitehall source said they were alarmed at the “unprecedented” amounts of confidential health information being swept up in the project, which they said was progressing at alarming speed and with insufficient regard for privacy, ethics or data protection.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/uk-government-using-confidential-patient-data-in-coronavirus-response

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @neddie

    All parliaments are suspended, as are elections (by default) meetings and and demonstrations (explicitly). Media in war mode.

    Wet dream for anyone in power. Unique opportunity for irreversible change.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    215% increase in cycling in Dunfermline

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    “The Guardian article linked to by Baldcyclist is very scary & makes me angry“

    Try this -

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/nhs-coronavirus-app-memo-discussed-giving-ministers-power-to-de-anonymise-users

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. chdot
    Admin

    Different sort of sad -

    That's the amount of beer expected to go unused in barrels if pubs remain closed into the summer because of coronavirus. Publicans are currently unable to sell their lagers, ales and ciders - save for takeaways and home deliveries.

    "It's a very sad waste of all the work and talent that goes into producing great beer," says Tom Stainer, chief executive of the Campaign for Real Ale (Camra). "People won't get to drink it and all those resources have been used up for nothing."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52199185

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. CocoShepherd
    Member

    215% increase in cycling in Dunfermline

    @gembo thanks for this heads-up. Seems like Dunfermline has seen a massive increase, far more than other places sampled. An indication of what could happen if a good network of half decent bike lanes were built there. If only such decisions were based on data?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    @cocoshepherd - yes. Was on BBC Website - think Dundee 94%. Edinburgh not on list - stopped at 16% increase Helensburgh or Falkirk. Will be back. Helensburgh. Of note Newton Mearns 121%. Livingston 66% and Bathgate 51 %

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    "Edinburgh not on list"

    Maybe because MMW counter not working? Also likely to be be fewer cyclists on MMW now compared to normal?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. CocoShepherd
    Member

    @crowriver

    Good point - does this list of places merely represent the remaining locations which have functional counters in the country?

    Half joking half serious. Could explain why there's no reported increase in cycling over the forth road bridge.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Nine Falco Brand Counters in Scotland. MMW, Union Canal and a meta counter at Vicky Quay. 51 other counters non-Falco brand?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    "Cycling Scotland, funded by Transport Scotland, has been monitoring cycle use since 2017, using a variety of methods including automatic counters such as "piezo-electric sensors" buried in the road surface."

    Presume CS staff are WFH: (functioning) counter data still coming in via interwebnut.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52269964

    Also, 215% increase for Dunfy sounds great but how many cyclists were there before? 215% of 23 cyclists is only 49.45 cyclists (.45 was a tagalong).

    (EDIT - Cannot find any references to Dunfermline in Cycling Scotland reports in 2017/8. That perhaps tells us something about cycling levels, or the lack of, in the area).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Spotted three guys (one with a surgical mask slung under his chin) spitting on the ground on my 5(8)b excursion. Why would anyone spit on the street during a respiratory virus pandemic?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. minus six
    Member

    Could explain why there's no reported increase in cycling over the forth road bridge

    FRB counter hasn't worked since last October or thereabouts ?

    running costs diverted to the vital QC de-icer operation

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. minus six
    Member

    you couldnt make it up

    wildfires draw dangerously close to Chernobyl site

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/13/ukraine-wildfires-close-chernobyl-nuclear-site

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Global pandemic, earthquakes and volcanoes, radioactive fires...2020 is turning into a real bummer.

    This sounds a bit too close for comfort:

    John Walvoord, a premillennialist, believes the Seals will be opened during the Great Tribulation and coincides with the arrival of the Antichrist as the first horseman, a global war as the second horseman, an economic collapse as the third horseman, and the general die off of 1/4 of the World's population as the fourth horseman, which is followed by a global dictatorship under the Antichrist and the rest of the plagues.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. unhurt
    Member

    earthquakes and volcanoes are & have always been a feature of life on the thin crust of this planet, though!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. minus six
    Member

    mass extinction also a persistent feature

    anyway, crackin' weather for april, innit ?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. Roibeard
    Member

    I've been studying Revelation this year, and been greatly encouraged by it. But I'm leaning towards a more, yet not purely, Idealist position. However the problem with such descriptions is that they're all wrong when considered absolutely.

    For example, clearly there is some 1st century references, some last judgement references and some timeless imagery. Hence maintaining that it's only about the "end times" or only the 1st century results in more extreme views, or even unorthodox theology.

    Jesus teaching is clear, and the premillenialist is correct, that we're living in the last days, however this has been true since the 1st century...

    Robert

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. nobrakes
    Member

    A lot more traffic on the A7 this morning. I thought we were still under lockdown.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Don't forget the actual plague of locusts.

    Or maybe that's what's using the A7?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Wife's cousin has it mildly, however her 8 year old daughter has cystic fibrosis and she's terrified she will catch it. Daughter currently has 2 different chest infections and definitely wouldn't cope with this on top.

    She had only been out the house twice in the last month.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    One of our pals is the director of a care home in France. Been sleeping in her office for a month. Gates locked, the lot. Going to have to open up on the 3rd of May as staff starting to lose it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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