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Do we need a coronavirus thread?
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Tour de France now going ahead from 29th august onwards. WTAF
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Yeah, seriously bad idea. The racing riders can't social distance (especially in the peloton), even if the onlookers lining the route somehow manage - and the latter shouldn't be travelling anyway.
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when there's no future, how can there be sin ?
we are the flowers in the dustbin
we are the poison in your human machine
we are the future, your future
god save the queen, we mean it, man
there is no future in england's dreaming
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So about 4 or 5 weeks after first having symptoms consistent with the Rona, chest tightness has returned. First round was definitely worse in all respects. This time no flu like symptoms although I have felt slightly hotter than normal. But less severe chest tightness than before. Never had any cough at all during this time.
Also never been tested. So I don't know if I had it the first time, and I don't know if I've got it this time. Just sharing my experience. All I know is this seems to be round 2!
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Well done @miak - for those that don't know he gave up and donated a great deal to allow that to happen.
On another note not unrelated to the behaviour of our ex-CMO, this is what leadership looks like if you ask me....
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Coronavirus UK live: Lockdown to be extended as minister warns no return to normal without vaccine
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From that link: "At 3,372 deaths, COVID-19 was the third-highest cause of death accounting for 7% of all fatalities. Only dementia and Alzheimer disease, which accounted for 14% of all deaths and heart disease at 9% caused more deaths."
Seems pretty vital we don't drop the ball on other public health issues in the (post? ongoing?) pandemic world - isn't it well established that air pollution increases dementia and heart disease rates? Humans are very good at normalising on-going "background" emergencies though. (See also: traffic collision KSIs).
Meanwhile the Guardian bit actually says
"This morning Prof Neil Ferguson, the Imperial College epidemiologist whose coronavirus research directly led to the government introducing the lockdown, said that even when it starts to relax, “we will have to maintain some form of social distancing, a significant level of social distancing, probably indefinitely until we have a vaccine available.” (See 8.07am.)
That is not something Downing Street or people at the top of government have said but last night Nadine Dorries, a junior health minister, made exactly the same point on Twitter."
So - some nuance.
But what's the plan if no vaccine can be constructed? Better treatments, I suppose. (Or, you know, testing and tracing like Germany etc.?)
Anyway I know some older people who would quite likely rather take the risk of going out than spend the rest of their lives in perma-lockdown. The calculation changes when you're in your 80s - you might not be here to see your family, meet your friends or go on that outing in one, two years time. (Both "my" upstairs ladies are mid 80s, widowed, and finding solo isolation pretty hard going I think.) Someone will need to take into account how to best ensure the quality of life of the most vulnerable. Months perhaps shading into years of confinement for them would be grim - and will increase deaths from other causes, no?
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Amazon closes French warehouses after court ruling on coronavirus Court ruled
Amazon was not doing enough to protect workers and told it to stop selling non-essential goods
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But what's the plan if no vaccine can be constructed?
Controlled herd immunity. Why is the NHS still massively expanding capacity when we are at the current peak and not needing the new hospitals? So that it can cope with more cases when the economic taps are turned back on.
I guess everyone can't stay in their houses until the end of time if there is no vaccine, and the virus doesn't go away. There will have to be a return to whatever normality looks like at some point.
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As reported on R4News (but can’t find another source) -
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On exercise, the guidance lists driving to the countryside for a walk as “reasonable” if “far more time” is spent walking than driving, but says that driving for a “prolonged period with only brief exercise” is not reasonable....
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Reasonable too if you can park properly as carparks likely to be closed.
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Cue high speed motorised dashes to Snowdonia, Highlands, Campsies, Loch Lomond, Pentlands, Arthur's Seat, etc.
I also suspect that once lockdown is relaxed but social distancing becomes the mandatory new normal, public transport will remain largely empty, people will avoid potentially crowded footways, and drivers will practice social distancing en masse through single occupant motoring to work, school run, shops.....the resulting huge congestion will allow a few hardy cyclists to filter. Pollution masks advised.
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@CocoShepherd
my partner has same as you - round two chest tight and mild temp rise - we thought it might be her MS flaring causing a resurgence, so its interesting hearing your confirmation
she doesn't drink though, and i'm back on it to make up for lost time
that might be a lesson for us all
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massive outbreak of clapping outside, wtf
i assume its for NHS today not boris
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Interesting I am fairly wheezy the last few days but nothing major. Not stopping me being out on the bike but taking it easy.
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Why is the NHS still massively expanding capacity when we are at the current peak and not needing the new hospitals?
you pose a rhetorical question, but the nightingale units are not hospitals, they are end of life hospices, nothing more
i have a relative who is working as a temp in london shifting bodies to emergency morgues, way beyond capacity now
they don't believe the official figures are anywhere near accurate
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pleurisy got me my first and (so far) only house call from a GP.
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@srd
you are a victorian chimney sweep and i claim my five pounds
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@bax
I'm hitting the vino now in the hope that it cures the pleurisy. Best wishes to your partner, hope she improves quickly. Improvement had begun after maybe 5 days from the starting bell of round 2 but was ruined by a 25 mile ride.
Lessons: exercise less, drink more?
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probably both, cocoshep
i'm on 20 miles a day cycling, and steady boozing in the evenings
however i am not a personal physician and my advice is purely anecodotal etc etc
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A very modest disclaimer bax but you and I know that such advice is absolutely 100%, completely, utterly, totally semi-sound.
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Had pleurisy before prior to my previous pneumonia empyema not empyema so
Think just asthma stuff. Had two nights off bevvy to prove it was possiblePosted 5 years ago # -
Had two nights off bevvy to prove it was possible
i understand this in theory, but its a bit like the 'dry january' punters, and their absurd denial of reality
never mix the grain and the grape, that's all we need remember
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gratuitously i am reposting this for those that may have missed it first time round, as i have it on rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat
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what is compelling about the emerging situation is that the aftermath will define the reminder of our lives across multiple generations, despite any lingering corporate fantasies surrounding francis fukuyama's patently ridiculous neo-liberal doctrines, we don't need slavoj zizek to remind us :
here we are now, entertain us
i feel stupid, and contagiousa denial, a denial, a denial
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