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  1. minus six
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    seems like we're on the verge of great times for second rate cult leader opportunists

    not quite at the jim jones end of things.. or even heaven's gate.. more like the boy simon from brookside

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. gembo
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    Oh you are on to something now @ Bax - San. Cult leader Simon Howe, poor wee Katie rogers joined and then poor big terry.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. minus six
    Member

    i think barry had to step in eventually ?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. minus six
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    Working in intensive care for 40 years, and said he has never seen anything like what is happening to the lungs of some Covid-19 patients. What is particularly baffling is patients are presenting with poor oxygenation but little lung damage

    This type of presentation is more typical of patients suffering from altitude sickness than a viral infection

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/how-is-this-possible-researchers-grapple-with-covid-19s-mysterious-mechanism

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. crowriver
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    I'm surprised they managed to get anyone to admit to being such idiots.

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    Coronavirus lockdown breakers

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52501417

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. minus six
    Member

    Mum is in touch with this underground network of hairdressers who have been working from home

    sheesh.. the black economy

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. gembo
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    The meteor shower family might have gotten away with it if they had cycled. Then they would not have had to argue with the polis. Never clever.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. ejstubbs
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    @crowriver: Did you see this earlier article about the difficulties of having a housemate (in one instance, the person's landlord) who refuses to observe lockdown and social distancing guidelines:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-52281443

    There aren't half some selfish and/or entitled people out there.

    In the article that you posted, the character that IMO really took the biscuit was the one who tried to argue that driving five miles out of town at 11:30pm to stare up at the sky was their "daily exercise". Sounds like their idea of exercise would be anything that involves not actually having posterior in contact with sofa.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Baldcyclist
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    "Meanwhile French doctor has claimed new tests on samples from patients show the virus was present in the country last year - weeks before the first officially recorded case.

    BBC News - Coronavirus: New lows for deaths in France, Spain and Italy
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52524001

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. minus six
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    Sous les pavés, la plage!

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  11. chdot
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  12. chdot
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    Not seen this detail before.

    Enforceable? Self enforcing by mass boycott?

    PT really only for poor and infirm?

    With some estimates suggesting that trains could run at only 12 per cent capacity if commuters observed social distancing

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-lockdown-ending-will-mean-cycling-to-work-and-staggering-hours-wkcrkr5ls

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  13. chdot
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    Man on news (re easing lockdown).

    “Nothing magical about 2m”

    ‘Might be more about how long you spend with people’.

    So fine to go to supermarkets, less fine to work there??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. MediumDave
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    @ejstubbs Seems likely. Another anecdote - went through Blinkbonny fairly early Saturday. Counted the cars parked on the road outside the houses.

    Went round the Pentlands for a bit (very quiet once away from the roads). A while later I came back through Blinkbonny and counted the cars again. The number had more than doubled! Unsurprisingly certain marques were over-represented...

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  15. gembo
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    The workmen putting out the temporary traffic lights this a.m. (city fibre is now all over all the access roads to Balerno). Standing talking to each other, three of them, no distancing.

    Think we are coming out of the half hearted lockdown we sort of kind of went into?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
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    It has been lockdown as performance sadly. It may be that someone still plans to let the virus spread through the whole population.

    The excellent Professor Sridhar explains how we will know if anyone attempts to defeat the virus as we will see these ten steps in practice;

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/04/eight-lessons-controlling-coronavirus-east-asian-nations-pandemic-public-health

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  17. chdot
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    They also provide a guide for what the public should be expecting of and demanding from their governments.

    The first is to aggressively identify where the virus is and break chains of transmission. This requires a “test, trace, isolate” policy that involves mass community testing, tracing those who had been in contact in the previous week with any individual testing positive, and putting all of those individuals into a mandatory quarantine.

    Agree.

    Clearly not going to happen in UK.

    What chance Scotland?

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  18. crowriver
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    "Advice on wearing face coverings on public transport has been delayed while ministers consider how to phrase it in a way that discourages people from buying masks needed by the NHS."

    I just knew this was why they were prevaricating and obfuscating over the wearing of masks in public. Now the truth is finally slipping out through informal briefings...

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  19. I were right about that saddle
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    What chance Scotland?

    They seem keen to follow the London line when it comes down to it.

    London training 50,000 customs bureaucrats just when we need that many contact tracers.

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  20. gembo
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    @crowriver, you knew that though? Also masks help if worn properly and maintain distance and wash hands and better at stopping others getting virus from you.

    We can blame the govt for not having enough NHS masks.

    Folk in NHS even buying their own masks.

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  21. chdot
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    “I just knew this was why they were prevaricating and obfuscating over the wearing of masks in public”

    Seems likely.

    Quite simple -

    Gov ads showing a variety of DIY face covers made from easily available items - inc suitability (or not) of scarves etc.

    Bits of vacuum cleaner bags taped inside a bit of cloth long enough to tie behind head?

    Sequins optional.

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  22. chdot
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    The fact that the Nightingales have not been “used in a significant way” was “something that is positive and we are grateful to the public for its role in that”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/london-nhs-nightingale-hospital-placed-on-standby

    Bit too much hindsight to say ‘well that was all a waste of effort’, but it seems it might have been hard to staff them if they had been needed.

    One reason they weren’t is that most normal hospital functions were cancelled/suspended.

    Presumably SAGE/GOV is doing spreadsheets on degrees of lifting lockdown (x) that will lead to need for hospital facilities (y).

    Factoring in social and economic effects might be more difficult and will (should) be political decisions that politicians may well reluctant to take/explain...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. chdot
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    Sturgeon warns of repeated self-isolation once lockdown eases

    Scottish policy paper emphasises coronavirus ‘test, trace, isolate, support’ strategy

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/04/sturgeon-warns-of-repeated-self-isolation-once-lockdown-eases-coronavirus

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  24. chdot
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    In the alternative (truth) universe -

    Getting great reviews, finally, for how well we are handling the pandemic, especially our strong production of desperately needed ventilators, the building of field hospitals & beds, and soon, the great things we are doing on testing. People are really working well together!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1257283775375040512

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. steveo
    Member

    I reckon we play a game of Trump or Kim jung un. Most of trumps tweets wouldn't seem out of place coming from NK or the USSR.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. AKen
    Member

    Really? I reckon the NK or USSR propagandists would have a superior command of the English language to that of Trump.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. chdot
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    If you have a spare hour (and ‘need’ to ‘understand’ everything) there’s this

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    (Only watched first minute, but it’s promising - if you have the stamina).

    She was ‘outed’ here -

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/government-names-dozens-of-scientists-who-sit-on-sage-group

    The t-shirt is about this! -

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2H4c6W2WWgv7SfsWZ3HF3fL/haslemere-study

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3pYGfsq0NKB1bNkrggYJl4h/about-bbc-pandemic

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. neddie
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    Honestly, the way I’ve seen 9/10 people wear masks. They. Are. Not. Useful.

    Yer might as weel put a piece o polystyrene & plastic on yer heid instead

    Posted 5 years ago #
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  30. Baldcyclist
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    'Fast and accurate' antibody test developed in Edinburgh.

    "Fears NHS could miss out"...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/fast-and-accurate-antibody-test-developed-edinburgh-scientists-2841264%3famp

    Posted 5 years ago #

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