@gembo yeah I have seen that in workie teams everywhere. Not saying it would be easy in all regards but many just dgaf
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“but many just dgaf”
About themselves and anyone they have at home it seems.
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WHO says minimum of 1 metre
Italy/France/Spain say 1 metre min
Belgium went for 1.5m
Japan a very precise 1.8m
US/UK/Canada say 2mmeanwhile in the Yukon one caribou or
four ravensPosted 5 years ago # -
It's not just dgaf I don't reckon. It's also the bravado that goes hand in hand with maleness.
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It's the "Five a Day" thing, isn't it? Five isn't really enough, you should be going for nine. But they thought that most people would think nine was completely impossible and not even try, while five sounds more do-able and is better than not trying at all.
Speed limit analogy also good.
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Bubbles are the next thing Scot gov is proposing
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@gembo, @IWRATS, @Murun Buchstansangur
"It's not just dgaf I don't reckon. It's also the bravado that goes hand in hand with maleness."
During a somewhat stressful visit to Scotmid Easter Road yesterday evening, I witnessed what could have been some of those workies, or their mates, or a similar breed of DGAF/macho bravado type males barging around the shop with nary a care in the world, and little respect for the niceties of social distancing. Not a pleasant experience.
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Bubbles could make sense with testing.
But imagine the prospects for giving offence. I'd just opt out now for fear of bubble rejection or being bubbled with a despicable person.
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"Bubbles"
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Ooh @SRD that is bad. Antonia Staats 38, Neil Ferguson 51
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Come on, it’s the double standard not the age difference...although they are clearly out to get him.
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“although they are clearly out to get him”
Probably
‘Boris’ newspaper’...
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For the academics on here - there goes his REF IMPACT case study?
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Only a bit political then...
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"Only a bit political then..."
Who was the CMO sleeping with?
Or maybe it is just about being in a position of trust, and abusing it?Posted 5 years ago # -
@SRd, fo’ shu’ same as our CMO. I was just riffing on the way tabs always go with Gem Gembo, 29 et cetera
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I think the big picture in this might be right. Particularly on pensions. It's like any survival situation: you look in your pockets not your bank account because that's not real and your penknife is.
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top link, iwrats
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Does this make sense?
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Britain could exit the coronavirus lockdown by relaxing restrictions on more than half of the population and beefing up protection for those over 70 and vulnerable people, scientists have said.
The strategy from researchers at Edinburgh University, known as “segmenting and shielding”, is intended to create leeway for ministers to ease the lockdown on those least at risk from the virus while ensuring that vulnerable people only come into contact with carers and family members who are free from infection.
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Over 70s seem more likely to get it badly, but more effort to protect those stuck in care homes would have been a good idea.
Better measures now for carers and cared for would be a step forward.
“while ensuring that vulnerable people only come into contact with carers and family members who are free from infection“
How is that remotely possible without a lot of testing?
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Without testing there can be no strategy I don't think. There would be no rational basis for segmentation.
My mum has just sent her test off. Did her own nasopharyngeal swab like the medical pro she was. Eyes watering and gagging and we're all going there sooner or later.
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The government’s own science adviser has admitted it was yet to get to grips with the number of coronavirus deaths in UK care homes.
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It’s just politics...
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But Lothian MSP and Tory health spokesman Miles Briggs said: “This is an overreaction by the First Minister.
“We need to see a safe way of transitioning to the new norm which she talks about.
“Drive-thru restaurants are probably the safest way of getting food or drink just now.”
He said many of the customers queuing at Cameron Toll could be key workers. “The fact it’s so close to ERI means it could be people working at the hospital.
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@TISWASRATS
That's my bleak prognosis
To be fair, he did warn the reader. Still remarkably grim reading. Hope he is wrong.
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@Iain McR
There's the potential for hope in that piece. If we do see universal basic income, a collapse in the rentier economy and a general recognition and sharing out of real useful work we'd be quite well placed.
On the other hand we could be going back to a system of Iron Age style warlords in which case it has been nice knowing you all.
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"and sharing out of real useful work"
Aren't there too many people in the world, and also a want for high salaries to afford western levels of luxury? To facilitate that work needs to be invented to keep everyone suitably occupied.
We're getting a little taste of what the real useful work is at the moment, and half the population are sat on their couches doing nothing.
Western society has gotten used to wealth, and will fight tooth and nail (and with guns and missiles) to maintain that status quo I fear.
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“Hope he is wrong.”
Haven’t read beyond this -
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What I am suggesting is that whatever we think or do we are heading for the most almighty economic crash. The things that we have treated as stores of value - which are mainly shares and both commercial and residential property - are massively overvalued now. And there is nothing we can do to prevent the value of them crashing because the Ponzi style financialisation that has gripped western economies - and those of the US and UK in particular - for the last forty years was always heading for a massive crash, and now it has arrived. The genie is out of the bottle and it will not go back in again.“
I take it he doesn’t provide any reassurance in the next 4,000 words.
He undoubtedly highlights a longstanding problem. CV has caused the chickens to all be locked down at the same time.
The future depends on the financial smoke and mirrors that will ‘solve’ the problem - or not.
Bigger issue for most people is ‘who pays’.
Another 10 years of super-austerity or?
Not bailing out Billionaire Branson may just be populist tokenism (if Gov even stands firm) but a society heavily reliant on rising house prices and (out of date) property values underwriting pension funds has problems.
A bigger problem (perhaps) is whose vested interests are more powerful.
Expect more ‘appeals to self interest’ - ‘if you don’t bale us out you won’t get a pension’.
Might well be true, but you might have been able to expect a better pension without it all being dependent on investment in things that might not be in the best interests of our/your planet managed by very well paid people trying to second guess ‘the market’.
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Pensions are implicit contracts between generations. Every sentient human being finds the idea of being cast out when they are too old to be useful terrifying. We look for an assurance that some of the future production will be given to us.
In the long run if young people decide not to look after the old folks it doesn't matter how many units of the far-east equity futures fund you think you own. Looking after young people is a very good idea.
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The UK must avoid lurching from the coronavirus crisis into a deeper climate crisis, the government’s advisers have warned.
They recommend that ministers ensure funds earmarked for a post-Covid-19 economic recovery go to firms that will reduce carbon emissions.
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With the coronavirus death toll mounting in care homes, the charity’s report flags the “horrendous” unsafe conditions workers are facing amid concerns over lack of personal protective equipment (PPE), as well as the impact on carers’ mental health.
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