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I went on a nice wee cycle to Glencorse today. However, the traffic levels do seem much more similar to before lockdown. Roslin Glen seemed particularly bad, a shame as there are still many cyclists and pedestrians around there. I never really understand why so many drive that way anyway, particularly given less congestion elsewhere.
Where are people driving and why?
@amir Boris lifted lockdown so people out and about innit
deft summary of Boris, can't remember where i saw it
he looks like a childrens party clown who slept in his car last night
"Roslin Glen seemed particularly bad"
Picnicking massive?
Driving for non-local exercise?
Or just driving for the sake of it (a nice drive)?
I suspect not picnicking. Through traffic. Looked back to normal.
Same story around the A8 and into West Lothian, including a pass at what must have been 90mph on the straight bit of the B9080 between Winchburgh and Kirkliston...sadly my go-pro ran out about 10 mins before :(
I never really understand why so many drive that way anyway
Because the glen road is the most convenient for the Rosewell Metropolis McMansion-dwellers.
Everyone driving northwards is pointing their car at the M8 westbound, so going via Lasswade first means going east, wasting precious time; going via Auchendinny first means going west and then north, via Howgate, which wastes even more precious time when you could just use the glen road and avoid all that fiddly B7026 stuff; and going via Penicuik means going south and west first, and then fighting the delays along the A701, which wastes even more time compared with Auchendinny.
"Coronavirus may never go away, World Health Organization warns"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52643682
I guess it seems plausable/inevitable, given there are already coronaviruses in circulation which made the jump at some point in history.
Can we carry on in the current vain for ever, if like the other coronaviruses it's not possible to find a vaccine?
Can we carry on in the current vein for ever
No. Clearly not. The fight-or-flight instinct is too strong for people to stay home doing spreadsheets while Death scours the land for very long.
And who would start a family if this was all there was? And how could anyone learn a practical skill like medicine or dentistry without close contact with other human beings?
We might stand a year of 'this' but no way people will take more.
Has there not been a fair bit of research into common cold vaccine?
Test, trace and isolate should be able to destroy the virus in principle if it is only resident in humans.
Of course that involves treating the people of Yemen, Mali and so on as human.
Also it involves the cooperation of Boko Haram and the dudes in the USA who wear body armour and AR15s socially.
“We might stand a year of 'this'“
Depends on the “we”, but many might not manage past June, certainly not after the (school) summer holidays.
If, finally, there is some clear idea of who/where/how it’s mostly contracted/spread and who most needs to be locked down/isolated, might be manageable.
Also (maybe) some hope -
MrsS has gone from being mildly unwell with a bit of temperature to coughing and spluttering like an 80 year old smoker in a day. Her test came back positive so no more leaving the house for 2 weeks, not even got the fun break the supermarket provided.
Ah, steveo mate that is grim. I am beaming luck and strength at you and yours.
Cheers IWRATS, Her stats were fine when she was tested and doctor at the test center seemed to think it would be very mild case but its still not particularly pleasant.
Now the fun experiment, am I in the 50% of people who are asymptomatic or am I going to get it worse since it does seem to affect men worse (no man flu gags at the back there)
@steveo - sorry to hear that. Happy to help if you need a hand with anything, just drop me a dm.
Thanks Morningsider we'll be okay.
@steveo Not good, hope your Mrs recovers quickly.
really sorry to hear that steveo. had been thinking it was a while since anyone i know around here had reported symptoms. hope you guys manage okay.
"Also (maybe) some hope -
Also some bad news...
Large scale antibody testing in France and Spain has infection rate at about 5% of the population. So much devistation and yet infection rate so low, doesn't bode well when you multiply that out if there's no vaccinne.
Thanks Guys.
Sorry to hear that steveo - best wishes to you and Mrs steveo.
Higher infection rate I bet in London, hence BoJo attempting to open up whole of UK
Steven. My thoughts with you and your wife
@gembo: Has there not been a fair bit of research into common cold vaccine?
I don't think research in to a vaccine for the common cold has ever been particularly focused or intense, partly because the overall social and economic impacts of the common cold are (despite what it says in the article linked below) far less serious than seasonal flu, let alone COVID-19. The Common Cold Research Unit, where human coronaviruses were first isolated, was closed in 1989 after operating for 43 years. Note also that that article says only about 10% of common colds are caused by coronaviruses: the vast majority are caused by rhinoviruses. So the situation with the common cold is further complicated by the fact that more than one type of virus can cause the usually non-lethal symptoms. Which sounds like a rather different problem compared to finding a vaccine for one already fairly well pinned-down virus that spreads all too easily, kills all too frequently and - because of the containment measures widely adopted in the absence of a vaccine or reliably effective treatment - has an unfortunate tendency to flatline national economies.
Cheers fimm, gembo.
@Baldcyclist: uk-minister-hails-game-changing-coronavirus-immunity-test
It is to be hoped that this 'game-changer' will be rather less of a disappointment than the one they announced two days after lockdown started: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_WhatsApp
Presumably now that PHE is satisfied that it does what it's supposed to, all they have to do is persuade Amazon and Boots (or whoever their current favourite commercial buddies are) to do the necessary deal with Roche and we can kick-start the economy by spending money with a notoriously tax-dodging US retail behemoth and an ex-pillar of the UK's own retail establishment now owned by a private equity firm and headquartered in Switzerland. Hurrah.
@steveo - really sorry to hear this. If you need shopping bought and dropped off I can do that no bother.
@steveo it might be too early, if your wife is still in the coughing stage, but i recommend getting an oxygen meter, and a pair of compression socks/tights if you don't have them. ongoing breathlessness with risk of blood clots typically after week three.
my wife still hits below 80 on the oxygen readings overnight, bouncing back to 98 during the day.
anyway fingers crossed and best of luck to you that it doesn't come to that!
Coronavirus: Scottish Government bracing for surge in staycations and 'jam-packed' roads
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