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  1. chdot
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    (England)

    Experts suggest the current rates of infection remain “some way off” what would be needed to lift the lockdown.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/148000-in-england-infected-with-coronavirus-in-last-two-weeks

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. chdot
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  3. I were right about that saddle
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    Just kicked the backside of a gentleman hemming me in at the supermarket. Refused polite then firm requests to move back and I couldn't retreat from him.

    'Didn't think I was that close!' he said. 'Close enough to get your a*** kicked' I quipped.

    What a business.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. chdot
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    The revelation – many weeks after Sedwill was diagnosed – means that almost all the senior people in charge of the UK’s coronavirus response had the illness in late March or early April.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/14/no-10-under-pressure-as-it-is-revealed-whitehall-chief-mark-sedwill-had-coronavirus

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. chdot
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    Armed police were scrambled to a Cardiff park after a member of the public reported spotting a man with a sword.

    It turned out that he was a local man out on his permitted lockdown exercise who had simply chosen to wear a fancy dress knight’s outfit – complete with a toy sword.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/14/uk-coronavirus-live-antibody-test-approved-for-use-latest-updates?page=with%3Ablock-5ebd65438f08a55ecde5a0be

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. chdot
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  7. chdot
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    “Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger,” the columnist Fintan O’Toole wrote in the Irish Times. “But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.”

    ...

    A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-response-world-leaders

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. ejstubbs
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    As well as motor vehicle traffic levels being closer to what they used to be pre-lockdown, my perception recently is that more people are pedestrianising even than when lockdown first started and exercise was one of the few valid excuses people had for getting out of the house*. At one point last Sunday on Braid Road I passed a longish 'train' of small, socially distanced groups of people out for a walk; it was actually quite reminiscent of Ardmillan Terrace after a Hearts home game.

    I wonder whether more people aren't just getting out now, and some of them are driving when they probably shouldn't e.g. to exercise - like the family who passed me in their hatchback going southbound on Swanston Road the other day, and who I then passed in return as they turned round in front of the brasserie having found the regional park and the golf club car parks both closed.

    * Which is actually still the case, of course.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Baldcyclist
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    Details of Scottish lockdown exit to be revealed next week...

    "Nicola Sturgeon reveals she is "keen to get the economy moving again""

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/nicola-sturgeon-set-reveal-potential-18257260

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. chdot
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  11. minus six
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    'Weird as hell’: the Covid-19 patients who have symptoms for months

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/weird-hell-professor-advent-calendar-covid-19-symptoms-paul-garner

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
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  13. LaidBack
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    Glasgow Green - small minority - attracting spectators and police presence.

    *WARNING: Explicit language*

    .@NicolaSturgeon says gatherings like these are risking lives, I asked some of the few people gathered in #GlasgowGreen what their message to the First Minister would be.... https://t.co/r3S1CemPY0

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. gembo
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    Between 0-10 actual protestors - 2 on bikes, all socially distancing how mad is that?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. crowriver
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    I'm seeing photos on Twitter of a slightly larger gathering in Holyrood Park, about 20-30 folk, a couple on bikes. Confined to car park area by Holyrood Palace by police/rangers.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. gembo
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    @crowriver, socially distancing or chest bumping?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    They don't look socially distanced at all.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
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    But neither are they huddled talking to each other as with other demos, one is just walking her dugs?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. crowriver
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    Click on the pic to see the full group huddle.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. minus six
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    silly kids games..

    the real struggle starts later, when the silent majority resist being forced back to crowded work environments without ppe, using unsafe public transport, or even worse forced to imbibe a ropey snake oil vaccine* in order to gain access to public space

    *there has never been a successful rna vaccine, its just not going to happen

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. Baldcyclist
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    "snake oil vaccine"

    If the virus is here to stay, I guess we all better hope that they do find one. As much as I don't fancy getting on a train at the moment, I fancy staying within the boundaries of my property *forevermore even less. I'd also quite like to see another town again.

    *Except to walk the dog.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. minus six
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    I fancy staying within the boundaries of my property *forevermore even less

    you escaped livingston, what more could you possibly want

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. MediumDave
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    @bax


    *there has never been a successful rna vaccine, its just not going to happen

    While the above is true (it's a fairly new technology after all) it might be fairer to say there's been no successful RNA vaccines yet.

    If the approach doesn't work, fortunately RNA vaccines are only one of many approaches (e.g. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/15/coronavirus-vaccine-prospects)

    There's certainly plenty of RNA viruses with successful vaccine programs (flu, hepatitis a/c/e, polio, ...). Hopefully a successful vaccine can be developed for this one too. But it will be a long wait...

    (edited to remove b0rked formatting)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. minus six
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    @MediumDave

    true there has to be some hope, otherwise we are forever now

    but such a lot of wishful thinking meantime

    war will be over by xmas etc

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. chdot
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  26. Murun Buchstansangur
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  27. gkgk
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    Quick side point question, as a casual reader of the Bax / Mediumdave comments above:

    How can it be that there's never (or, not yet) been a successful RNA vaccine, but there have been successful RNA vaccine programmes? Surely a successful vaccine programme relies on a successful vaccine? Sorry if it's a beginner question.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. chdot
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  29. chdot
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  30. minus six
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    @gkgk

    there's been some 'success' in animal trials but also some very very nasty immune responses in lab monkeys

    so, there are none at all approved for human use

    Posted 5 years ago #

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