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  1. LaidBack
    Member

    @SRD - you were right, she was wrong. No obligation to run over anyone walking on the road or on 'wrong side' of shared use footpath either.
    Basically she saw you and simply had to go wider. We did that all the time in the pre-CV-19 city centre.

    National reports UKGov are 're-inventing' calendar with a 30th February inserted this year...

    "Van-Tam told the daily Downing Street briefing: "On the question of quarantine: why didn't we do it previously? And we're talking subject to ministerial announcements about maybe doing it now. Um, well my recollection is we did do it before. On the 29th of February and then I think on the 30th of February we announced that travellers returning from the hotspots of Wuhan. They had to self-isolate at home for 14 days.""

    Posted 5 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/agency-staff-were-spreading-covid-19-between-care-homes-phe-found-in-april

    Posted 5 years ago #

  3. fimm
    Member

    Having a bloodycyclist mindset is great when it comes to taking space for social distancing - I've at least once caused cars coming behind me to slow to walking speed while I complete my social distancing maneuver. Do I give a <rule2>? No I do not.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/may/19/life-after-lockdown-in-porto-returning-to-my-local-cafe

    (That’s Porto not Porty!)

    Posted 5 years ago #

  5. Baldcyclist
    Member

    We can see the tip of the iceberg now.

    "Huge rise in Scots claiming unemployment benefit"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52720227

    Posted 5 years ago #

  6. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/19/uk-coronavirus-home-test-kits-run-out-as-eligibility-list-is-expanded

    Posted 5 years ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/19/only-5-of-teachers-think-it-safe-to-reopen-english-schools-poll-shows

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/19/uk-government-pandemic

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  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Robert Buckland soon to be reshuffled?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. SRD
    Moderator

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/20/british-schools-science-children-education-testing-tracing

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  11. chdot
    Admin

    “

    Johnson says 'track and trace' system will be in place by 1 June

    “

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/20/uk-coronavirus-live-school-rebellion-english-primaries-pmqs-covid-19-latest-news-updates?page=with:block-5ec5108e8f08a1782fa7e242#block-5ec5108e8f08a1782fa7e242

    Or

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/uk-plans-for-contact-tracing-in-doubt-as-app-not-ready-until-june

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/bus-passengers-be-counted-ensure-distancing-2859217

    Posted 5 years ago #

  13. minus six
    Member

    If they want the economy "back on its feet" then all public transport in Scotland should be re-nationalised and services increased significantly to allow social distancing without extended delays

    Citizens should undertake a general strike until this is achieved

    Posted 5 years ago #

  14. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/top-eu-doctor-europe-should-brace-itself-for-second-wave-of-coronavirus

    Posted 5 years ago #

  15. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "Europe should brace for second wave, says EU coronavirus chief"

    Doesn't matter, from a govt perspective. Now that most countries now have their contact tracing in, or almost in place, and we've built many massive 1000's bed hospitals all over Europe, they can send the lambs back to the slaughter and not have their respective healthcare systems overwhelmed when it comes back.

    It was noticable in last night's Horizon programme (will be on iPlayer), one of the Dr's said, rough quote "Given that lockdowns have failed to contain the virus, we now need to move onto the next stage of learning to live with the virus. We all want to, and need to get back to work, and so we need to put in place social distancing, and contact tracing measures".

    Posted 5 years ago #

  16. Baldcyclist
    Member

    One thing that did surprise me, was that there was no twitter meltdown, nasty ScotGOV comments here, or anyone complaining at work when Nicola Sturgeon announced on Monday that loackdown is being eased from end May. Mainly because I remember the fury when BJ announced the English easing.

    Bearing in mind Scotland was estimated to be arround 3 weeks behind England in the epidemic that timescale puts our easing more or less at the same time as Englands relative to the epidemic.

    Maybe everyone is fine with the prospect of getting on a train again in Scotland because Nicola told us to do it?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  17. stiltskin
    Member

    I suggest that is because the lockdown has largely evaporated in Scotland. People took their cue from Boris, so the Scottish lockdown is now theoretical rather than actual & what Sturgeon announces is much less significant than it used to be.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    “

    Nick Allen, the CEO of the British Meat Processors Association, said the initial guidance provided by the government was “fairly minimal”, but that it had started issuing its own industry guidelines to members at the end of March. “This [social distancing] was something that had not been done before and has been a steep learning curve. There has been a considerable effort to get it right.”

    “

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/20/its-a-shit-way-to-go-for-9-an-hour-fear-at-meat-plant-after-three-deaths-coronavirus

    Posted 5 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    “

    He told the Guardian: “Science just isn’t like that and so the idea that they were following the science was wrong. And now that they’ve been criticised for their steps they have taken, it is bizarre that they’ve tried to say that it was wrong science that led them astray rather than their own decisions.”

    Stevens said that, during his time advising the government on drugs policy, he had seen civil servants “tell ministers the story they want to be told”. He highlighted comments by Prof John Edmunds, from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who advises Sage on infectious modelling, saying they did not carry out detailed modelling for a lockdown originally “because it didn’t seem to be on the agenda”, as “politics leading the science rather than the other way around”.

    “

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/uk-scientists-must-not-be-blamed-coronavirus-advice-says-royal-society-head

    Posted 5 years ago #

  20. stiltskin
    Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-52747041
    As I said...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  21. gembo
    Member

    Busy on the beach at Portybelly today

    Posted 5 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    (Pinned tweet)

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1250031849759481856

    Posted 5 years ago #

  23. acsimpson
    Member

    @Stilkskin,

    Police Scotland as usual are being useless at enforcing the law.

    She added: "Our officers will continue to engage with the public, explain the legislation, encourage compliance and will use enforcement only when necessary."

    Given that they issued no fines at Porty today they are clearly not willing to enforce the lockdown and are part of the problem rather than the solution.

    Of course Police Scotland being unwilling to enforce the law doesn't come as a surprise to any of us.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  24. crowriver
    Member

    @AllEdinTheatre
    Devastating news from @lyceumtheatre
    - dark until 2021. Enters negs with unions over redundancies in effort to save its future:

    http://www.alledinburghtheatre.com/hibernation-for-lyceum-theatre-goes-dark-for-remainder-of-2020-news/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  25. HankChief
    Member

    Better get comfy, our firm has just said we're working from home until end of Sept...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  26. gembo
    Member

    Can sit in park sunbathing with one other household

    Bowls, fishing, golf allowed

    Travel near your local area by walking and cycling

    From next week (well yesterday down porty)

    Face to face children’s hearings indoors but everything else Outside

    Hairdressers phase 2 (gets laugh)

    Posted 5 years ago #

  27. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Also, acknowledgment R rate still higher than England. But let's release anyway.

    She is clearly a much better orator than that fool down South, but we appear to still be on broadly the same plan, just a few weeks later.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

    (Dyson)

    “

    One staff member, who spoke to the Guardian on condition of anonymity, said the company had caved in after a furious reaction from its workforce

    “

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/21/dysons-uk-staff-revolt-against-order-to-return-to-work-coronavirus

    Posted 5 years ago #

  29. jonty
    Member

    > She is clearly a much better orator than that fool down South, but we appear to still be on broadly the same plan, just a few weeks later.

    The substance is similar, but there are no misleading newspaper leaks, slogan changes to suggest lockdown is over, or employees being sent back to work with zero notice.

    The changes are being announced in detail, well in advance rather than being hashed out quickly over a weekend against a backdrop of internal party civil war and then badly briefed to ministers who repeatedly get details wrong on national TV.

    And of course the announcement of English changes by the UK PM with minimal acknowledgement of the nuance required for the devolved nations - running to a different infection timetable as you say - was particularly unclassy.

    I think the main fury about Boris' announcement was not so much about the concrete details announced - although there were some details to be annoyed about - but the general confusion and bizarre media strategy where they tried to create the impression of lockdown being over while only very slightly relaxing it in law.

    We often decry style over substance in politics but when you're asking people to massively change their way of life, communication is exceptionally important. People accept that there's no right answers at the moment and I think they're still willing to stand behind the decisions their leaders make. Unfortunately, that's very hard if they appear to make five different decisions on the same day.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  30. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/strategy-plan/2020/05/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis/documents/covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis/covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis/govscot%3Adocument/covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis.pdf

    Posted 5 years ago #

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