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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Wow that’s some URL!!!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. minus six
    Member

    an excessive and blindly convoluted URL string that tells its own story.. badly..

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Was pulled from website too briefly?

    Looks to be taking back the extra week’s holiday Edinburgh teachers were due due to ther earth taking 365.25 and a bit more to go round the sun

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Phase 1: "Permitted to travel short distances for outdoor
    leisure and exercise but advice to stay within a
    short distance of your local community (broadly within
    5 miles) and travel by walk, wheel and cycle where
    possible."

    Make of that what you will, esp 5 miles. Travel by wheel?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    UK coronavirus live: migrant care workers to be exempt from NHS surcharge after U-turn

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/21/uk-coronavirus-live-news-update-covid-test-and-trace-second-wave

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    “Travel by wheel?”

    Think that’s inept jargon for scooter.

    (May or may not include electric ones...)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    I think "travel by wheel" will be mainly to include wheelchair users.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Baldcyclist
    Member

    What I don't understand yet, maybe it was explained in the statement but I missed it...
    The R rate is unchanged from when the FM previously told us she wasn't prepared to release lockdown yet because the R rate was still too high in her judgement; and that there was a significant risk the virus could take off again.

    Also, no app in Scotland, only manual contact tracing. So we won't know if we've been sitting next to someone on a train, or at a supermarket queue for a period of time who was infected. Looks like England is rolling back on the app too...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I think "travel by wheel" will be mainly to include wheelchair users.

    "Walking, wheeling and cycling" is the usual phrase for inclusive active travel. 'Wheeling' is what people who use wheelchairs often call it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. mgj
    Member

    WHO guidelines. R below 1 for 3 weeks in a row. Now sure it is below 1.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Ta, I'd guessed it was more to do with the contact tracing system being available than whatever the R rate of the day was.

    Also suspected running out of money had a bit to do with it too, or every country would have all kept lockdown going until it was completely eradicated like New Zealand did.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/uk-first-coronavirus-contact-tracing-group-warns-of-difficulties

    ‘ UK's first coronavirus contact-tracing group warns of difficulties’

    Some COVID +ve reluctant to engage or isolate

    Doesn’t bode well for ScotGov attempting it with no app

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. crowriver
    Member

    @gembo, "Looks to be taking back the extra week’s holiday Edinburgh teachers were due due to ther earth taking 365.25 and a bit more to go round the sun"

    I *think* I saw it reported that Sturgeon said exact dates for schools reopening would be up to individual local authorities. So presume 11 August is the earliest they can open. I recall Fife schools break up earlier, go back earlier than Edinburgh, for example.

    The blended learning thing will be interesting: "continental shift" patterns of pupil attendance?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    “Some COVID +ve reluctant to engage or isolate”

    Wonder how some other countries might deal with this...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    @jonty

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    I think the main fury about Boris' announcement was not so much about the concrete details announced - although there were some details to be annoyed about - but the general confusion and bizarre media strategy where they tried to create the impression of lockdown being over while only very slightly relaxing it in law.
    ---

    Well we've come to expect these kinds of shenanigans from the Johnson operation. Traling this, nudge that, kite fly there other, responsible ministers or devolved administrations find out from a Torygraph article or Spectator blog...

    It worked for them in December's election, so imagine they think why change a winning formula? Distract, deflect, dissemble, discombobulate.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    @crowriver, nah, the document had this quote about a standardized return day 11th aug. i was also going she doesn’t mean that she said from 11th, edinburgh wont go back til the next week. But a colleague showed me the text. Although, the document was then taken down from the website, so anybody’s guess. (This was 1300pm)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    @gembo, I have a copy of the PDF. It says "Subject to the evidence and progress of the epidemic we expect schools to open on August 11."

    BBC says:

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    Councils will have to change the planned dates of the school holidays - in many areas, schools were due to go back later than 11 August. It's also likely that 11 August may be used for in service teacher training in some areas so pupils may not actually go back on that day. Councils or individual schools will confirm to parents exactly when their children will be back in the classroom.

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    So room for some ambiguity there.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52754812

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    @crowriver yes they will row back from the standardised 11th date. In-service please what about? What a laff.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    The Home Secretary, Priti Patel, is expected to unveil a quarantine plan for new arrivals to the UK, at today’s Downing Street briefing.

    Under the plans, international travellers could face spot checks and £1,000 fines if they fail to self-isolate for 14 days after arrival.

    Exemptions for road hauliers and medical officials will apply, while the common travel area with Ireland will be unaffected. Arrivals from France are not expected to exempt despite earlier suggestions that they would be.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/22/uk-coronavirus-live-news-update-covid-19-travel-quarantine-plan?page=with:block-5ec76f798f0886ce4f5d84a1#block-5ec76f798f0886ce4f5d84a1

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Baldcyclist
    Member

    UK borrowed £62 Billion last month:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52766487

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. Baldcyclist
    Member

    More than 60,000 a week getting the virus in England in first 2 weeks of May says ONS.

    #UnderControl

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-statistics-england-infections-a4446976.html

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. minus six
    Member

  23. crowriver
    Member

    We are the plague island...

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    Cyprus bans Brits when it reopens to tourists due to poor coronavirus record

    The UK has been blacklisted by Cyprus due to its high death toll and infection rate while tourists from 19 other countries including Germany and Greece have been allowed in

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/europe/breaking-cyprus-bans-brits-reopens-22071337

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. wee folding bike
    Member

    I'm a bit worried about school staff going back and having weeks of inservice. A day is bad enough.

    In Teams if your PT asks you turn off the mic and camera to save some of their bandwidth… and you happen to have a Yamaha keyboard beside the computer… meeting can be tolerable. Just turn on the mic and grunt now and then. Enola Gay with a salsa beat has something special.

    Fixed a puncture for a guy in Coatbridge last night. He didn't know the word for a spanner. Management wanted to know if I'd been a safe distance away.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    @wee folding bike, EIS will be arguing in service for sure. You know wee Nicky has stolen a weeks holidays from edinburgh teachers i n august. My suggestion of letting edinburgh teachers knock off early in June (from pointless. Being in schools without children) also not getting through EIS?? Allegedly. I also found that recently in a Teams meeting I could mute people. Man that was fun

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    He didn't know the word for a spanner.

    A native speaker of average intelligence? Fascinating. How did he describe it?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. Frenchy
    Member

    Fit's a spanner? Oh, ye mean a key?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. wee folding bike
    Member

    Thing for taking a wheel off.

    This was more or less when I suggested that I should mend it for him.

    He was from Glenboig so I'm not sure what his native language would be.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Should we be expecting a statement from BoJo dispensing with his services tomorrow...

    BBC News - Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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