I think it means "You can walk or cycle as far as you deem prudent, so long as you start at your front door. You can drive a short distance (5(ish)miles) to start your walk or cycle (or go for an outdoor swim). You can not drive up to the Highlands (for example) and go Munro-bagging."
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Yet there doesn't seem to be any distance restrictions in travelling to meet up with other households, at least not that I can see. Is exercise a bigger risk of infection than sitting in someone's garden?
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Well I'm glad the Scottish government has learned from the nonsense down south and produced clear guidance with no room for interpretation.
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Up to 350,000 Covid-19 test samples – those carried out at drive-through centres between 2 April and 6 May – are believed to have been taken without recording individual NHS numbers or full addresses, making it harder for health authorities to track the pandemic and cases in their areas, the Guardian has learned.
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Shambles
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The risk is your transport breaking down or otherwise leaving you stranded, and reliant on Yet More People to rescue you.
All these people flying off for jaunts on their motorbikes is fine and dandy until someone highsides, or their battery dies, or their chain breaks. Who you gonna call?
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“I think it means "You can walk or cycle as far as you deem prudent, so long as you start at your front door.“
That’s the problem.
Clearly is not clear, and/or you are not clear.
“Yet there doesn't seem to be any distance restrictions in travelling to meet up with other households“
(Apart from crossing the border with England?)
There does seem to be an assumption that contained in a motorised box there is no CV danger to you or anyone else, so it’s sort of like being teleported to where the rules begin again.
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Although that could happen on the way to the shops and require as many people to help.
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Regarding the samples
"Wales and Northern Ireland insisted on changes to the system in their areas in order to make it effective and ensure every result was linked quickly to each person’s patient records. But England and Scotland were left with a booking system which, nearly two months after the programme launched, has left health agencies still trying to retrospectively match each result with individual patient records. This means that while individuals receive their results, their doctors are not automatically notified."
:facepalm:
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“The risk is your transport breaking down or otherwise leaving you stranded, and reliant on Yet More People to rescue you.”
Which is why the 5 miles should apply to driving too.
But it doesn’t seem to be(?)
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It would be a fairly Cummings move but if you lived in places like Coldstream you could park your car in England and walk to and from it and go as far south as you feel like.
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FT has already revised its mortality figures from earlier.
https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0
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Not sure you’re even supposed to walk over the Border now!
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From FT -
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The timing of lockdowns relative to the spread of the virus had a significant effect on the total level of excess deaths, the data show.
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As has been evident for a while.
The slight mystery is why Scotland isn’t much but better due to the notional ‘earlier than England’ start of lockdown.
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From Monday, up to six people will be able to meet outside, providing members of different households continue to stay two metres apart.
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Which is slightly different from here.
Of course it all depends how long people will be able to stay out without needing to go home for the toilet.
Maybe there will be a surge in sales of mobile homes??
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The slight mystery is why Scotland isn’t much but better due to the notional ‘earlier than England’ start of lockdown.
Probably can't overcome the effects of 40 years of rubbish diets and excessive alcohol with a few extra days.
Posted 3 years ago # -
In-laws are not doing well after learning there is no change for sheilding group.
They have been looking forward to seeing family so much for the last week. I can't see them complying.
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Swinney (on R Scotland) saying 5 miles about distance to exercise.
Now just saying ‘yes, um, don’t know’ in response to listener’s question ‘can I go to my fathers funeral in Essex.
Then decides “not going to give you specific advice on that”.
It’s all about toilet stops...
(Nowhere to go in Scotland apparently, and he doesn’t know about England.)
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“there is no change for sheilding group“
Any chance their self(?) assessment has been over cautious? (For 2m distancing)
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Shielding is for people, including children, who are at very high risk of severe illness from coronavirus (COVID-19).
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Do they have a garden?
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Our neighbours have a teenaged disabled child. Their GP phoned up at the start of all this to try to get a DNR form signed. Extremely upsetting.
Posted 3 years ago # -
@murun Buchstansangur, tough times indeed
Posted 3 years ago # -
Went for a poke round Duddingston golf course in advance of the Great Leap Deathward and stumbled on the posh houses here.
Was just turning round to leave when this guy rushes out and starts coming over all bald. Private land get off and all the rest so of course I mocked him for a bit before leaving. If he'd just been polite I'd have high-tailed it.
Also lockdown is over. Car-loads of dudes cruising about summer evening style all over the shop.
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I very much doubt anyone in ScotGov is aware that it’s possible to cycle, let alone walk, more than 5 miles. It probably isn’t even on their radar.
This is meant to be a slight “easing” of lockdown, so how can they possibly make the length / distance of exercise more restrictive?
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They're trying to treat us like grown-ups. They don't want us to go more than five miles from our homes but they're leaving us some leeway and room for judgement.
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TBH. I don't think the detail of what has been announced matters. Sooner, rather than later I think they are going to haver to tighten the restrictions again, so they might as well say 'fill ya boots' because most people seem to be doing that anyway.
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They're trying to treat us like grown-ups
That'll be a first!
If only mate, they simply haven't given the message anymore thought than Westminster
Despite having two weeks to learn from them they've produced the same garbled rubbish.Posted 3 years ago # -
Am I detecting frustration with our glorious leaders messages?
I always thought she a was cult leader like and dissent wouldn't be tolerated by the collective.
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@Baldycyclist - Am I detecting frustration with our glorious leaders messages?
The 'Rev' Stu certainly agrees with you - see IndyRef2 thread!
But would LibDems / ScoTories / Labourites really communicate any better? Jason Leitch has been vocal here - could almost say he is at cult status.
Small independent countries have generally done better though - except Sweden which didn't lockdown totally (but better than Scotland for mortalities) . Best small UK country is Northern Ireland where there is Sinn Fein / DUP in charge.@neddie - I very much doubt anyone in ScotGov is aware that it’s possible to cycle, let alone walk, more than 5 miles. It probably isn’t even on their radar.
I often wonder that too! But that applies to all parties surely? Many people we know socially don't cycle and admit to missing driving. Older generation though are very car centric and we have never had one - no point in city centre.
Images from today.
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@Laidback To be fair, although the message is still broadly similar (for the phase) to England, the messenging up here has been better.
Presumably as messenging becomes more nuanced, that's likely to lead to more misunderstamding of what the message is.
Interesting that Scotland decided not to copy the New Zealand 'Alert level' staging as England did.
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there's a serious problem in scotland
NHS remains under lock and key, both hospital and GP surgeries, to "protect the NHS"
if you develop a serious condition, that requires urgent referral to a consultant for evaluation, ct scan, urgent treatment - its not happening, not even the initial referral - unless it is deemed an *immediate* risk to life
this is seriously [rule 2] and next to no one in the media is talking about it
so [extended rule 2] about golf courses
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