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  1. chdot
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    “

    Opinion
    Is the worst of the pandemic behind us? Here's what scientists know so far
    Devi Sridhar

    ...

    there’s a confusing lack of consensus from scientists about whether we’ll see a second wave of coronavirus cases. Although the future is uncertain, we can imagine four scenarios for what might come next.

    ...

    My own view is that we can avoid a second wave if governments aggressively contain the virus through testing, tracing and isolating carriers, and by encouraging good hygiene, such as hand-washing and environmental disinfection, supported by physical distancing where it’s needed. The goal is to drive down numbers of cases to a low level so that transmission is limited to discrete, containable outbreaks with the ultimate goal of elimination.

    “

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/11/pandemic-scientists-second-wave-coronavirus

    Posted 5 years ago #

  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I have shouted 'Monty, you terrible c***!' in front of Sleddale Hall.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  3. gembo
    Member

    Bruce Robinson said he got that shouted at him

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  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It was just crows and wind when I was there.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  5. gembo
    Member

    No hares? Here

    Posted 5 years ago #

  6. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/five-more-contract-covid-19-edinburgh-and-lothians-less-five-patients-remain-intensive-care-2881702

    Posted 5 years ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/11/english-care-bosses-say-lack-of-resources-cost-thousands-of-lives

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. chdot
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    Local authorities and retail groups told the Guardian that much of a £50m government fund handed out to councils in England in recent weeks had been spent on signs and barriers based on 2-metre distancing, much of which would need to be scrapped if the distance was reduced.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/11/uncertainty-over-2-metre-distancing-rule-in-england-causing-chaos

    Posted 5 years ago #

  9. crowriver
    Member

    Least surprising thing to happen in months, happens.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/11/carbon-emissions-in-surprisingly-rapid-surge-post-lockdown

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. gembo
    Member

    Was pegged back by quite fit chap on spesh drop bars with disc brakes (Maybe Diverge) as we ascended Buteland in windy conditions.

    I took his rear rack as an affront and caught him going up Cockburnhill. He then came back at me but then disappeared (presume turned back down the hill)

    I wondered if all the huffing and puffing I was doing put him off?

    Always easier to chase than stay in front

    Posted 5 years ago #

  11. minus six
    Member

    speaking of all things affront, i've been out 20 miles daily during lockdown and not an electric bike in sight, seems strange as they were catching on earlier in the year

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. jdanielp
    Member

    Aside from the crazy waste of public funds (but then again there's nothing new in that!), I can't understand the plan to reduce the social distancing limit from 2 metres. It is already fairly comparable to the way in which speed limits help to reduce average speeds to somewhat above the limit. Few people are aware of how far 2 metres actually is, but most people do keep ~1 metre away, until it is lowered...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  13. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I'm not sure it's a plan at the moment, just buisiness trying to lobby Govt's with their tales of woe.

    That said the economic headache has well and trully started, and from my being really busy, and also being paid bubble. I'm starting to hear people who are furloughed, or can't look for a job starting to become restless, they want normallity back asap so they can put food on the table.

    I'm not hearing that so much from people in the same bubble as I am who tend to think the current arrangements are fine.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  14. gembo
    Member

    Two metres means different benches
    One metre same bench

    Posted 5 years ago #

  15. jdanielp
    Member

    @gembo time to campaign for longer (or shorter?) benches?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  16. crowriver
    Member

    "they want normallity back asap so they can put food on the table."

    Hm, most people on 80% of wages/salary can put food on the table. They might not be able to afford luxuries like repayments for that new Audi they're dreaming about, a camper van, a new telly, smartphone, etc. But food? On 80%? Unless you're dining like the Romanovs or the Windsors not a problem.

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  17. chdot
    Admin

    “most people on 80% of wages/salary can put food on the table.“

    True, perhaps even the unmost too.

    Bigger problem is the ones on 80% fearing (justifiably or not) that their next career move will involve the unemployment line.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  18. gembo
    Member

    @jdanielp

    Shorter benches all taking one person all 2 metrres apart

    One of my fave Steve bell cartoons is Gordon Brown campaigining for shorter trousers
    We are the Party of Shorter Trousers etc

    Final frame is John Prescott with breaks up to his oxters

    I may have bored you previously with my Campaign For Shorter Cars?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  19. jdanielp
    Member

    @gembo not so much bored as amused. Keep campaigning!

    Posted 5 years ago #

  20. crowriver
    Member

    "Bigger problem is the ones on 80% fearing (justifiably or not) that their next career move will involve the unemployment line."

    Well yes, for some (maybe for many) furlough is the relatively comfortable departure lounge before being shown the exit. May be a much larger number of people unemployed by the autumn.

    Seems to me that a number of employers are using the pandemic as an excuse to make changes they were planning anyway for next year's Brexit fiasco.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  21. dessert rat
    Member

    I may have bored you previously with my Campaign For Shorter Cars?

    I was / am fully onboard with this, although subsequently disappointed to learn mine is 8cm over the reasonable 4.5m limit.

    Still think 4.5 is fair.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  22. gembo
    Member

    3 metre limit if just you driving into edinburgh

    4 metre if have family or blow up dolls as they had in Seattle when they tried to crack down on SOVs

    Posted 5 years ago #

  23. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "Hm, most people on 80% of wages/salary can put food on the table"

    As far as I'm aware they have only had access to that funding for the last 12 days, unless their company was able to subsidise until then. My builder brother in law hasn't had access to the scheme prior to June. His family is at its wits end, and many more must be too. Our childminder is in a similar position with no Govt help until June.

    March to June is a long time with no income*.

    *Neither has an Audi, childminder has a 12 year old Zafira, and brother in law a similarly aged Corsa (well don't actually know what he currently has, he buys another £600 car whenever the current one fails it's MOT). Bubbles...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  24. steveo
    Member

    [i]4 metre if have family [i]

    4.7m but it does have to take 5 of us and almost all cars I've come across won't fit three booster cushions comfortably on the back row.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  25. fimm
    Member

    Mr fimm is self-employed. He was only able to claim the money for the self-employed at the end of May. We've been fine as I have been working as normal (well apart from being sat at the sitting room table rather than a desk in Livingston) but if he had been the main/only wage earner?

    We don't have an Audi either...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  26. wee folding bike
    Member

    4.82 m.

    I’ve not put gas in it since March.

    Lately it has been hauling Dawes Kingpins, Raleigh Twenties and the more normal Brompton.

    Folding Kingpin for number 4 son soon.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  27. urchaidh
    Member

    Ours is 4.5m for the same reason as Steveo, smallest car we could find that would fit 3 kids seats across the back and all our junk in boot/roof.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    4.6m. Expedition car. No running about town. Spare me the CHOPPER?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  29. gembo
    Member

    I go with very tight maxima as I know you will all encroach with your excessively long and indeed wide cars

    In the olden days cars didn’t seem tiny did they?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Many cars are now both fast and boolbuss.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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