Of course after they’ve taken away the temporary stuff, more and better will appear soon.
OR NOT!!!!
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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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The Rapido has become even posher in it’s unsuccessful battle to topple L’alba doro from title of Edinburgh’s poshest Chip Shop.
As a local chip shop user, I have to say that The Chippy by Spencer (the chop shop formerly known as Rapido) is significantly better than L'Alba Doro.
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Councillor Lang said: “SNP and Labour councillors’ obsession with the controversial Spaces for People programme has clearly meant they’ve taken their eyes of the ball on the wider road safety programme.
“The transport convener must now get a grip of this. She needs to spend less time on grand 20-year plans and more time ensuring the council delivers on the promises made”.
Councillor Macinnes said: “Contrary to these claims, we remain committed to delivering our programme of schemes to improve road safety.
"The effects of the pandemic have been far-reaching, not in the least its impact on our resources, the ability to consult and the reprioritisation of projects, as well as limiting the ability to carry out necessary, representative traffic surveys during periods of lockdown. Unfortunately, this has resulted in some delays.
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Perhaps if she didn't have to spend so much time arguing for progress with the Lib-Dem-Con circus there would be more time for everything else.
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I imagining it or are bollards disappearing/thinning out on queensferry road from dean bridge to Blackhall and on the other side too. The turn after the esso garage heading west also seems to have had bollards removed but the white paint is still there … makes no sense
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acs - The LimDems are absolutely shameless - I have been arguing with Robert Aldridge about him wanting the ones removed from Drumbrae North on 'safety concerns'. I told him it seemed crazy that all his arguments for removing them were because of bad driving and cyclists would be less safe as a result.
The LibDems are now about appeasing drivers and chasing their votes than doing anything for cycling.
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@miak, it only makes sense if viewed through the lens of doing everything possible to pander to "furious" drivists. Then it's perfectly (ideo)logical!
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I agree with Councillor Lang. An administration should make every effort to "deliver on promises made". That's what Lib Dems do, right?
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I received a flyer through the letterbox today from one Louise Spence who styles herslef "Scottish Liveral Democrat Ward Champion for Colinton/Fairmilehead". She lists the top issues in the residents' survey she conducted recently (news to me, as a resident - but mayhap I simply binned it as I do with most unaddressed stuff that comes through the front door).
The top issue in her 'survey', scoring 90% (though 90% of what is unclear) is "Spaces for People/Congestion on Buckstone Terrace". She says: "The concerns over the way the Space [sic] for People project been implemented remain - especially around this area given the impact on traffic, pollution and issues around emergency response time. I see it most days as I commute from Colinton into the city centre for work!"
Picking this apart a bit:
1) I struggle to see how the SfP work in Buckstone Terrace can have had any significant impact on "traffic". Prior to SfP the road was well parked-up in both directions most of the time, especially so towards the south end where it was used as an unofficial park and ride during the week. This meant that there was only really one lane useable by traffic in each direction for most of its length, and the SfP measures haven't reduced that. I certainly haven't noticed any particularly significant increase in traffic or indeed congestion on that road (and any that has occurred as lockdown has eased seems very likely to be due to people staying away from public transport). I wonder if there is any actual data to support this supposed 'issue'?
2) Given 1), and in a similar vein, is there any actual data to support to assertion that pollution has become more of an issue?
3) And, again, what evidence is there of issues with emergency response times?
I suspect that all of the above three supposed 'issues' are merely reiterations of the poorly substantiated complaints and faux 'justifications' aka whataboutery from drivists that we're all familiar with by now.
The icing on the cake for me, though, is the implication that she knows all about these supposed 'issues' because she commutes from Colinton to the city centre via Buckstone Terrace. In what world does that make any sense?
It seems almost embarrassingly obvious from this what subset of the voting population the Lib Dems are targeting. So I presume they won't be too upset to know that this particular exercise has done nothing whatsoever to increase the likelihood of them getting my vote any time soon.
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The LibDems have no compunction about using whatever means necessary to try to appeal to local “concerns”, from ACH’s cynical support/opposition to LTNs, the candidate in England who opposed HS2 (despite it being officially supported by the party) all the way back to Simon Hughes using homophobia to oppose a Labour rival in the 80s - despite being gay himself.
I used to predominantly vote LibDem. The scales fell off my eyes relatively recently.
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@ejstubbs, evidence? Data?
Nah. It's all about vibes, man. The word on the street is, "people don't like SfP". Gotta go with the (traffic) flow, dude.
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The great thing about the lib dems jumping onto the anti-SfP bandwagon is they might capture some of the protest vote that otherwise would be nose-holding Tory. I can imagine angry Jimmy the van man, a lifelong labour or SNP supporter who is somehow so upset that he decides to put an anti-SfP candidate first, best that's harmless Libdem rather than dangerous Tory...
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I preferred the lib dems when they were pro Weed and against nuclear weapons
With this anti-environmental stance they are against weed and Pro Nuclear.
Flip flop fly
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While liberals favour the freedom of individuals to choose how to live, they also accept that individual freedom must be tempered where it has negative impacts on the freedom of others. An individual's freedom to drive must be tempered by the right of others to live free from air pollution, noise and road danger.
Is it liberal to support the right of individuals to park for nothing on property held in collective ownership? Particularly when that affects the rights of other groups, such as children or people with mobility problems, to travel freely.
I would argue that the true liberal approach would be to provide people with the choice of how to travel (walk, bike, rail, bus or car), with policy and investment favouring those modes that had the least impact on the common good.
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On the subject of the Lanark Road lanes: when I went up them about 7:15am yesterday morning I counted 5 cyclists coming down and three going up (including me and Bill).
Coming back about 7pm I think I noticed 2 going up and didn't see anyone else going down.
Neither of those stats is from peak commuting time.Posted 3 years ago # -
I wonder if more offices are back? In the times that I've been on Lanark Road it's always seemed remarkably empty.
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@Morningsider, presumably they are tilting towards the democrat part of their name. Why bother with the greater good when you can just allow the majority to decide on everything and woe betide anyone who can't afford to be in the 51% or chooses the greater good over personal motor transportation.
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@Dave Lanark Road felt more empty of motor traffic than I'm used to... I'm not sure if that's an accurate perception.
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@acsimpson, the 'democrat' part of the Lib Dems comes from their merger with the Social Democratic Party (SDP), led by the "Gang Of Four" who broke away from the Labour Party in the early 1980s.
Whatever the stated intentions of the SDP, the effect of the new party was to split the Westminster vote and keep Thatcher in power for longer than many had expected. Similar splits happened in 2019 when another gang of Labour MPs left to form The Independent Group/Change UK. At least one of those former MPs subsequently joined the Lib Dems.
So, whatever their intentions, the effect of the Lib Dems in politics is often to prop up Tories. Which is neither very liberal, nor very democratic much of the time.
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Barber reports today as first full on busy commute at Haymarket
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End of furlough, innit?
Back to the office, serfs!
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Yes, this is what the barber said
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Lothian Tory MSP and Edinburgh councillor Sue Webber said she had experienced very busy traffic driving into town on the West Approach Road. "It was queued from the Dundee Street slip," she said. "You get the sense there are definitely more cars on the road."
She said roadworks, as well as cycle lanes and other Spaces for People measures all contributed to reduced road space and bottlenecks which had not been there before.
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and the bus lane itself is regularly empty at peak times.
Yes, Dunfermline commuter. So are railway lines. That is the nature of mass transit.
"It was queued from the Dundee Street slip," she said. "You get the sense there are definitely more cars on the road."
SJW cannot even make a coherent point. Either her comment is an anecdote ("get the sense") or she is referring to hard evidence ("definitely").
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Weeber's idea: Make the city horrible so everyone can drive in from the suburbs. Make everyone want to leave the city and go and live in the suburbs. Repeat until every individual lives on their 1 sq mile of land, 1 mile away from everyone else.
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@arellcat, she applies Weberian logic which is summed up nicely in the ladybird book on Donald TRUMP. has a big orange fruit on the cover.
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How odd that SJW didn't take advantage of the time stuck in a queue at the Dundee Street slip road to read the large sign that says:
NO goods vehicles over 5 tonne, pedal cycles, pedestrians or animals
Bikes are literally banned from that road and there is no Spaces for People infrastructure on the WAR or anywhere near the Lothian Road end.
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@morningsider these are the bad Non-weberian facts
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