@neddie, indeed, particularly low class when they say SFP should be removed because they ran over a flowerpot. The paper reporting that with a straight face is yet another new low.
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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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Mr Walls, who has been a driver for 40 years, called on the council to scrap the Spaces for People scheme, claiming it made driving conditions harder at a time when many are already “at their wits end”.
He added: “I had a near miss with a van driving down Drysdale Road at 4am. There was just about enough room for us to pass by each other but someone had thrown a flower pot into the middle of the road and I didn’t see it. The pot hadn’t been secured down.
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@boothym - No, pretty sure there have never been any SfP measures on Drysdale Road.
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The pot hadn’t been secured down.
Clearly not - otherwise you wouldn't be seeing flowers in the middle of the road at 4am.Posted 2 years ago # -
Not sure what his point is with Woodburn Terrace - it has problem parking with parents from the schools, but traffic is way down there since SFP. Canaan Lane is closed both at the west and north and east end only leads to the Astley Ainslie which private cars aren't allowed to use. So there's very little through traffic there any more. Hardly any past the school as there's no way to get onto Morningside Road any more, and anyone who was driving along there for the last two years was ignoring the Road Closed sign!
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The whole article is a disjointed ramble! I agree the Woodburn Terrace comments make no sense, as do most of the others.
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SWEM are back
Personally I congratulate them, they've more than made out the case that the only safe course of action is to allow no cars at all on Lanark Rd...
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Are they seriously claiming that the layout is confusing to drunk drivers as a valid excuse for its removal?
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Two obvious errors from SWEM.
1. crashmap only displays crashes where someone is injured and this is recorded by the police on a STATS19 form. Any vehicle only incident, or incident not reported to the police, will not show up.
2. Crashes are not consistent events. There can be considerable annual fluctuation.
Changes to a road layout could result in a temporary increase in crashes, but this should reduce to previous levels after a period of time. Actually, this argument was used by anti-speed camera campaigners who kept banging on that reductions in crashes after camera installation were temporary and would "revert to the mean" over a number of years. That was until boffins at the Transport Research Laboratory conclusively proved they were talking out of their Gatso's.
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and a pedestrian refuge island being demolished when the driver swerved to avoid a car in a floating parking space.
I believe this is the refuge island shown in the photo in the article and I can't see how floating spaces caused someone to demolish it. Unless they talk about a different refuge island or a car was parked outwith the floating spaces or the driver was going way too fast.
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Came across a road safety page on Fife Council's website that linked to this map, which also contains a "damage" category of road accident data not available on CrashMap: https://fifecouncil.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=1db2484f03d4430c8abe02cae70837a7
Wonder if CEC have a similar page or could produce one from police stats?
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Some schemes have seen negative media coverage, as well as local opposition which, while generally involving a small number of people, has spooked some councils into reversing changes.
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London's walking and cycling schemes could lose out in TfL cuts
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Cllr Rust has lodged numerous questions about Lanark Road for next week’s council. He’s really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one:
As the council failed to signpost the Spaces for People scheme as an alternative to the Water of Leith walkway or Canal Towpath, is the council at risk of a compensation claim from anyone who believes they caught Covid from lack of social distancing in these locations?
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You can't make it up with his party of half-wits. Where was he when they were wanting to remove all the schemes that had put in wider pavements to provide extra social distancing?!
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"Cycle lane gave me Covid" - it's like a headline from the Sunday Sport.
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No surprises for who says "could face legal challenge".
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Edinburgh Council just keeps ignoring public opinion over issues like bin hubs, Spaces for People and controlled parking zones – John McLellan
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It is a re-run of the impasse encountered by so many communities over the imposition of the Spaces for People road restrictions, where the views of a minority of campaigners took precedence over the wishes of local people directly affected and still do, as many schemes are set to be maintained for a further 18 months under “experimental” orders designed to get people used to the changes.
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What - no "Transport Taliban", no "war on the motorist"? Finally realised how tiny the martial rhetoric makes you look when you are talking about cycle lanes?
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"public opinion" ≠ "the opinion of some members of the public with whom I agree"
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I'm hoping that whole "bikelash" article premise about most people actually quite liking making cities nicer for people rather than cars just not enough to get shouty about it during consultations and instead waiting for an election to have their say is true, TBH at this point not even to know even Edinburgh might have a chance of a decent cycle network one day, but purely to enjoy the impotent gammon-faced outrage of the Muh Public Opinion sorts like him.
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A house came up locally that looked interesting, and my first thought was "but what if the Tories cause an upset in May..."
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Braid Road is currently signed as being closed to bikes northbound - the "Except cyclists" sign next to the no entry signs at the south end of the restriction has been folded away. This seems to be due to some work being carried out on the wall along the west side, involving the (presumably temporary) closure of the footway at the point, with pedestrians diverted on to the northbound protected cycle lane for a few yards.
Quite why that means that bikes aren't allowed northbound along any part of that stretch of road is unclear: I would have thought it was an obvious opportunity for one of the much despised "cyclists dismount" signs to be brought out of storage. Better than simply announcing "thou shalt not pass" when it's too late to do anything about it, surely?
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Edinburgh's ETRO engagement process for the remaining Spaces for People schemes should go live tomorrow.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1534988953752944662
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This seems to be a map of all SfP measures, including those already removed.
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Spaces for people - interactive map of measures
Joining up with existing paths and cycle routes
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https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/roads-travel-parking/spaces-people-interactive-map-measures/1
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