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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Cycle lanes in use!

    Video

    https://twitter.com/i_SanjayLalwani/status/1539560629819916288

    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "Over 1,500 people have signed this petition calling for the council to rapidly evolve a ‘bollard-free’ approach on Lanark Road and Longstone that will create calmer, safer and more accessible streets for residents, visitors and all road users.

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/number-edinburgh-cyclists-using-bike-24392678

    Not clear if the 1,500 have designed any safer, bollard free, solutions…

    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    From link

    “We want to move on from the divisive policies of Spaces for People, and support more walking, bus use and cycling, with a permanent solution that ensures the needs of local people are not relegated below those travelling through the area, whether by bike or by car.

    Sounds reasonable

    SO

    Everyone everywhere should expect to be NOT disadvantaged by passing traffic.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. Yodhrin
    Member

    So given this and the previous atrocious video it's now clear Mr Farr has an agenda against cycling, whether personally or just for clicks, I'd recommend people don't post direct links to edinburghlive since everyone who reads the site puts money in his pocket. Either post the article content here directly or use archive.is to generate a new link.

    As for the content - this is the same discredited manure that was thoroughly debunked the last five times "SWEM"(ie, that one total crackpot) reheated it but this time with a change.org petition that any numpty with an email address and a unique IP can sign(as many times as they want). Somebody needs to take the guy down to the WoL path he loves so much and chuck him in for a swim(for legal reasons I note this is a joke/hyperbole...).

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Re Lanark Road

    I have dug deeper and it’s a lot more than that.

    Some serious concerns surrounding the design of the scheme.

    Something the council accepts is an issue.

    https://twitter.com/jacobfarr31/status/1544346773371719683

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. Yodhrin
    Member

    Funny how Mr Farr neglected to mention in the article that he'd already looked into it further than the presumed regurgitation of a SWEM "press release", what he uncovered by doing so, and apparently either didn't bother to ask or forgot to relay what the council were planning to do about it...

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburghs-royal-botanic-garden-has-disabled-parking-restored-at-entrance-3771240

    "Councillor Arthur said: “Mr Munro should be congratulated for the campaign he has run and it’s fantastic the council has been able to improve matters for him."

    "Scott Arthur, the new transport convener, is pragmatic in his approach and listens to people"

    ... who drive cars.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    I don't really understand this. Looking at google streetview for March 2021 there are nine disabled persons' parking places near the entrance of the Botanics under Spaces for People. Six on the same side as the entrance and three on the opposite side. Looking at the photo in the Chipwrapper, the new spaces are about a car's length closer to the entrance - but do not benefit from kerbside access. They do not seem to offer more protection from "being almost run over".

    I do see that the dividers have been removed - likely meaning a free for all at the entrance, making it more dangerous for everyone.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. Frenchy
    Member

    I think that the kerbside spaces visible on streetview are still there, so there's now just an extra option of "parking further away from traffic, but not at the kerb".

    I am likewise unconvinced that this is the optimal solution.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  10. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "I do see that the dividers have been removed - likely meaning a free for all at the entrance, making it more dangerous for everyone."

    Indeed. Plus it puts vehicles back to a position obstructing the view of pedestrians seeking to cross to/from Inverleith Park

    Posted 4 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Spaces for People: interesting dynamic at Edinburgh's transport committee. With the Tories abstaining, the SNP-backed Green amendment carries against the Libdem-backed Labour motion.

    Could be a pattern for things to come?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1565355142941052928

    Posted 3 months ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Great result

    @CllrCMiller
    motion to adopt ETRO report is passed, with added Lab words on #NetZero & bus consultation

    Green/SNP - 5
    Lab/Lib - 4 [for main Lab amendment]
    Con - 2 abstain

    Superb example for multi-party council

    https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1565357269868597252

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    It's not the best outcome, because it still strips out protection on Braid & Comiston road, but it's the best one on the table. For most schemes it means an 18 month stay of execution.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1565359764657393664

    Posted 3 months ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Any theories/info on why these are being removed but not the others?

    Local Cllr interest??

    Posted 3 months ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Slightly odd for Tories to abstain?

    So they aren’t actually against cycle lanes?

    And don’t want to vote with other anti-Indy parties??

    This council is strange!

    Posted 3 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    The full recommendations which have been approved in the report are here
    -->https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s48016/7.7%20-%20Appendix%202%20-%20Scheme%20Recommendations%20-%20v12.pdf…

    NB - this *does* retain #ComistonRoad cycle lane meantime pending bus times review (see cols 5 & 6)
    Sadly, the plans from previous council to reopen #BraidRoad remain

    https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1565363060856000513

    Posted 3 months ago #
  17. Frenchy
    Member

    Any theories/info on why these are being removed but not the others?

    Delays to buses through Morningside and "something has to be done", if I remember correctly.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    Thanks Frenchy

    Though seems to be ‘not yet’ for C Rd.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    I think I have a VG idea for saving bike lane AND benefiting buses.

    Might need a site visit.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Paywalled but the full article is buried in line 10 in the HTML source if you go digging.

    In a nutshell, one political party says too much money has been spent on SfP, everyone hated the schemes, and local authorities should consult next time! Transport Scotland says more than the quoted sum was allocated, and not all of it was spent, limited consultation because it was a public health emergency, and many of the schemes were made permanent or removed as appropriate.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm not going to read the article as I can guess what it's spouting. I will hypothesise however that the thing everyone hates is actually the political party doing the complaining.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    Long-awaited ETROs (Experimental Traffic Regulation Orders) which legally enable Council to make #SpacesForPeople schemes permanent (or not) and decide modifications/redesign

    https://edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13598/measures-to-support-walking-wheeling-and-cycling-extended-on-a-trial-basis…

    Our response to previous non-statutory consultn

    http://spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2206-ETROs-Travelling-Safely-Spokes-response-June-2022-FINAL-finalised-by-DF.pdf

    https://mobile.twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1593661195382390791

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    Raeburn Place

    That whole street needs rethinking beyond just removing the bollards once we can finally enforce the pavement parking ban. It’s a tragedy the SfP town centre scheme got ripped out, we could be so much further along with this work.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/julebandel/status/1598687402335342595?

    Posted 17 hours ago #

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