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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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Posted 2 years ago #
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"Over 1,500 people have signed this petition calling for the council to rapidly evolve a ‘bollard-free’ approach on Lanark Road and Longstone that will create calmer, safer and more accessible streets for residents, visitors and all road users.
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https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/number-edinburgh-cyclists-using-bike-24392678
Not clear if the 1,500 have designed any safer, bollard free, solutions…
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From link
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“We want to move on from the divisive policies of Spaces for People, and support more walking, bus use and cycling, with a permanent solution that ensures the needs of local people are not relegated below those travelling through the area, whether by bike or by car.
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Sounds reasonable
SO
Everyone everywhere should expect to be NOT disadvantaged by passing traffic.
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So given this and the previous atrocious video it's now clear Mr Farr has an agenda against cycling, whether personally or just for clicks, I'd recommend people don't post direct links to edinburghlive since everyone who reads the site puts money in his pocket. Either post the article content here directly or use archive.is to generate a new link.
As for the content - this is the same discredited manure that was thoroughly debunked the last five times "SWEM"(ie, that one total crackpot) reheated it but this time with a change.org petition that any numpty with an email address and a unique IP can sign(as many times as they want). Somebody needs to take the guy down to the WoL path he loves so much and chuck him in for a swim(for legal reasons I note this is a joke/hyperbole...).
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Re Lanark Road
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I have dug deeper and it’s a lot more than that.
Some serious concerns surrounding the design of the scheme.
Something the council accepts is an issue.
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Funny how Mr Farr neglected to mention in the article that he'd already looked into it further than the presumed regurgitation of a SWEM "press release", what he uncovered by doing so, and apparently either didn't bother to ask or forgot to relay what the council were planning to do about it...
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"Councillor Arthur said: “Mr Munro should be congratulated for the campaign he has run and it’s fantastic the council has been able to improve matters for him."
"Scott Arthur, the new transport convener, is pragmatic in his approach and listens to people"
... who drive cars.
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I don't really understand this. Looking at google streetview for March 2021 there are nine disabled persons' parking places near the entrance of the Botanics under Spaces for People. Six on the same side as the entrance and three on the opposite side. Looking at the photo in the Chipwrapper, the new spaces are about a car's length closer to the entrance - but do not benefit from kerbside access. They do not seem to offer more protection from "being almost run over".
I do see that the dividers have been removed - likely meaning a free for all at the entrance, making it more dangerous for everyone.
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I think that the kerbside spaces visible on streetview are still there, so there's now just an extra option of "parking further away from traffic, but not at the kerb".
I am likewise unconvinced that this is the optimal solution.
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"I do see that the dividers have been removed - likely meaning a free for all at the entrance, making it more dangerous for everyone."
Indeed. Plus it puts vehicles back to a position obstructing the view of pedestrians seeking to cross to/from Inverleith Park
Posted 2 years ago # -
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Spaces for People: interesting dynamic at Edinburgh's transport committee. With the Tories abstaining, the SNP-backed Green amendment carries against the Libdem-backed Labour motion.
Could be a pattern for things to come?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1565355142941052928
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Great result
@CllrCMiller
motion to adopt ETRO report is passed, with added Lab words on #NetZero & bus consultationGreen/SNP - 5
Lab/Lib - 4 [for main Lab amendment]
Con - 2 abstainSuperb example for multi-party council
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https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1565357269868597252
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It's not the best outcome, because it still strips out protection on Braid & Comiston road, but it's the best one on the table. For most schemes it means an 18 month stay of execution.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1565359764657393664
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Any theories/info on why these are being removed but not the others?
Local Cllr interest??
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Slightly odd for Tories to abstain?
So they aren’t actually against cycle lanes?
And don’t want to vote with other anti-Indy parties??
This council is strange!
Posted 2 years ago # -
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The full recommendations which have been approved in the report are here
-->https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s48016/7.7%20-%20Appendix%202%20-%20Scheme%20Recommendations%20-%20v12.pdf…NB - this *does* retain #ComistonRoad cycle lane meantime pending bus times review (see cols 5 & 6)
Sadly, the plans from previous council to reopen #BraidRoad remain“
https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1565363060856000513
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Any theories/info on why these are being removed but not the others?
Delays to buses through Morningside and "something has to be done", if I remember correctly.
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Thanks Frenchy
Though seems to be ‘not yet’ for C Rd.
Posted 2 years ago # -
I think I have a VG idea for saving bike lane AND benefiting buses.
Might need a site visit.
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Paywalled but the full article is buried in line 10 in the HTML source if you go digging.
In a nutshell, one political party says too much money has been spent on SfP, everyone hated the schemes, and local authorities should consult next time! Transport Scotland says more than the quoted sum was allocated, and not all of it was spent, limited consultation because it was a public health emergency, and many of the schemes were made permanent or removed as appropriate.
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I'm not going to read the article as I can guess what it's spouting. I will hypothesise however that the thing everyone hates is actually the political party doing the complaining.
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Long-awaited ETROs (Experimental Traffic Regulation Orders) which legally enable Council to make #SpacesForPeople schemes permanent (or not) and decide modifications/redesign
Our response to previous non-statutory consultn
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https://mobile.twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1593661195382390791
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Raeburn Place
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That whole street needs rethinking beyond just removing the bollards once we can finally enforce the pavement parking ban. It’s a tragedy the SfP town centre scheme got ripped out, we could be so much further along with this work.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/julebandel/status/1598687402335342595?
Posted 1 year ago # -
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Residents from the street told the city’s transport committee the positive impact of the ban on through traffic had been “amazing”, but a council engagement exercise in the wider Portobello community found more than 65 per cent opposed to the closure being made permanent. A report to the committee said: “In general, the public feedback highlights that those who live on Brunstane Road are supportive of the changes made under the ETRO, while those who indicated that they do not live on Brunstane Road are opposed.”
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Posted 1 year ago # -
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Because I was asked, this is the estimated financial cost of removing the remaining SfP schemes:
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1623302382011535361
Long list in link.
No idea what the point is.
‘Too expensive to remove’(?)
‘FAR too expensive to improve’(?)
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Posted 1 year ago #
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A cycle lane where the bollards were removed before Christmas is set to have some of them reinstated after motorists took over the roadspace.
Councillors agreed in September to remove the physical defenders from the cycle lane in Drum Brae North, originally introduced under the Spaces for People scheme, but leave the cycle lane in place. However, a report to the committee says vehicles regularly encroach onto the cycleway, use it as a second lane at junctions and force cyclists to ride with heavy traffic. Now officials are recommending bollards are reinstated along about half the length of the cycleway.
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Posted 1 year ago # -
What else did they expect to happen? There's no apparent sheriff in the wild west.
Posted 1 year ago #
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