“those with knowledge of on-street delivery“
Many?
CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 15years old!
Well done to ALL posters
It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
RULES No personal insults. No swearing.
“those with knowledge of on-street delivery“
Many?
At least one but I get what you are saying.
Knowledge and experience aren't always the same.
Stanley Street closure has happened: https://twitter.com/SpokesPorty/status/1266333239825895425
More please.
@Stickman Given Grant Shapps'/DfTs impressive comments on delivering things in weeks, it's quite surprising they still haven't given any money out three weeks later.
Half of Great Junction Street has 2 lanes coned off.... for fibre work on the pavement. At least it's wider than it would normally be.
@Rob - those road works are authorised under exactly the same system used to create temporary cycle lanes and wider footways. The guidance governing the layout of roadworks was updated on 9 April, with the aim of facilitating social distancing for workers and the public.
How can work sites that allow social distancing be quickly installed on out streets, but not temporary cycle lanes and wider footways. Why!?
New website from the council. Add your comments here....before 29 June.
From that website, it looks like the Crewe Road lane will be segregated, not advisory:
The next phase, which we’re currently consulting local councillors and stakeholders on, will significantly enhance conditions for those cycling to and from the city’s main hospitals. Our plan is to install around 3km (2 miles) of temporary segregated cycle lanes on Crewe Road South, leading to the Western General, and Old Dalkeith Road, between Cameron Toll and the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary, providing safer routes for key workers and service users, especially as traffic grows again.
Answer to a previous query on CCE -
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*Definition of 'wheeling': The act of a person who moves, travels, conveys on or as on wheels, e.g. wheelchair/skates/buggy/mobility aid.
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Also
You have been warned -
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Disclaimer
While we welcome and monitor all responses directly relating to safe physical distancing, it will not be possible to implement all suggestions. Design and implementation timescales for those ideas that we take forward will be dependent on available funding, procurement of materials and availability of contractors.
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First time using commonplace, quite nifty (even if the sign-up is a pain - why do I have to 'meet' the team?!) - added a few comments around Tollcross and managed to stop myself before I wrote an entire essay on Earl Grey St.
Is this the council officially putting major changes out to pasture? In 4 weeks time traffic levels could well be back to or above where they were in February.
Despite them promising that any previously submitted comments will be taken into account I'm adding them to the map anyway.
I would assume/hope anything submitted is actively considered rather than only being considered after 29/06.
There seems to be too much considering and consulting but not enough constructing going on.
Meanwhile in Paris (and therefore coming from a pretty high base of bike use and infra):
"The Paris authorities have created 30 miles of extra cycle routes in the past month, and nearly 50 miles of new bike lanes are to be provided in Lyon this summer.
In the two weeks since France began loosening restrictions, bike use has jumped 53 per cent from its pre-lockdown level, according to the Paris city council."
Why consult? This is an emergency. The Council employs transport planners, modellers and engineers. They know where the city's major travel corridors, pinch points, narrow pavements and cycling back holes are. They investigate this sort of thing every time they produce a new local transport strategy. Problems and potential solutions are also pointed out by us in every consultation response.
What will this consultation tell us? St John's Road a bit busy at rush hour, Ferry Road a bit tricky for cycling, pavements in local shopping streets a bit narrow, people actually cycle south of the Meadows.
When this is done, what will the Council know that they didn't already?
Come on Morningsider you know you have to consult these days or your plans are objected to because you didn’t consult, oh wait I see yes emergency regs say Feck consultation and crack on
“When this is done, what will the Council know that they didn't already?”
They’ll know that some people think some things are a good idea.
It’ll give someone some sort of reassurance that some sort of democratic process has been carried out to someone or other’s satisfaction.
If only SOMEONE would realise this is all just a waste of time (never mind any notions of emergency).
Presumably not many local authorities are applying for the money so CEC isn’t bothered about it being taken away?
But as been said before, lack of urgency is disappointing, but the lack of ambition (still no plans for radial main roads?) is tragic.
It's a worrying thought that perhaps other Scottish LAs are even more cack-handed about cycling provision than CEC
Interested in the format being used - transport scotland also seem to be a partner - would be good to have a briefing on the background, how this method was selected and why partner with an external organisationSomething something emergency. Something something oh come on.
Yes, a competitive tender process and full approval at the next council committee should have been the appropriate route.
Thread not going well
https://mobile.twitter.com/lmacinnessnp/status/1266376733613162497
Hopefully they're already working on creating space on main commuter routes, and this map is just to find extra little bits they can spend the rest of the money on.
Over 300 suggestions already.
Part of Union St in Aberdeen closed to vehicles:
https://twitter.com/aberdeencf/status/1266681038157287426?s=21
Union Street is where my dad took me on a Friday evening rush hour before my driving test. Reckoned anything would be easy after that free for all.
So this is an amazing move - car culture has only deepened since those long-ago days.
There's something very weird going on with that commonplace map.
Check out all the comments round the back of Wickes on Westfield Avenue. None are actually about that location of course (Harlaw, Yeaman Place, ...)
There are also numerous examples of less egregiously misplaced comments (e.g a comment for Charterhall Road located on top of Blackford Hill).
Features are located with lat/long pairs so I guess it must just be really easy to click in the wrong place when making a comment.
(https://edinburghspacesforpeople.commonplace.is/comments.json is informative)
Yeah, I got rather confused by the interface on my first couple of attempts, which I then had to re-do with a corrected pin in the map as there does not seem to be any possibility to retrospectively edit or delete your own comments.
Cycling evangelist and Tory councillor Mark Brown pointing out the problems of disconnected safe routes:
https://twitter.com/mr_mark_brown/status/1267119866085072897?s=21
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