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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It isn't that the carriageways aren't wide enough, it's the Council's vision that is too narrow.

    I will measure the newly painted Old Dalkeith Road lanes tomorrow. I shall take both a tape measure and a micrometer.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    @morninsider for sure they need to get the finger oot

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    In an unsurprising turn of events, people are moving the “road closed” signs out of the way so that they can drive down Warriston Road.

    https://twitter.com/halosler/status/1268541264653410309?s=21

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    The obvious solution is to use large planters (whether thrown down in the street, or not). Available for a few hundred quid each.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. slowcoach
    Member

    "Glasgow city centre is to suspend about a third of its on-street parking spaces to increase space for social distancing.
    The move is part of an initiative by the city council to create about 25km (15 miles) of extra space for physical distancing."
    BBC

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Glasgow's (15) Miles Better after all, it seems.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. CycleAlex
    Member

    List of junctions/crossings with automatic pedestrian phases (so far): https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/27429/list-of-junctions

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
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  9. chdot
    Admin

    A703 SEAFIELD MOOR ROAD – A702 BIGGAR ROAD TO A701
    (2 METRE CYCLE LANES & 40MPH SPEED LIMIT)

    Speed limit reductions that easy(?)

    Is SG intending to learn lessons for permanency from this ‘experiment’?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. stiltskin
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  11. Snowy
    Member

    Unless the network of temporary cycle lanes looks something like the Lothian Buses route map then it will not provide a viable alternative to driving.

    I'm late to the party on this thread, but ++1

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. CycleAlex
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    So Crewe Rd South will have wands, just not right away due to supply issues. What a rollercoaster.
    https://twitter.com/lmacinnessnp/status/1268579990611918855?s=20

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Morningsider
    Member

    What's stopping the use of cones/barriers on Crewe Road South in the interim? Plenty of other places are using them for this purpose.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Would I be correct in expecting wands to be installed on Old Dalkeith Road today? Not sure why I think that's the plan but I do.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. PS
    Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-52908713
    sigh

    So much odd/exasperating/counter-intuitive stuff in that article.

    "However, we are working on a range of improvements to make it easier and safer to walk, cycle and spend time in the city centre in the coming months," he added.

    FFS. Pull your finger out, Adam. The coming months will be too late to prevent gridlock if folk switch from public transport to cars.

    Galab Singh Gold, a senior director and partner of the Gold Brothers, welcomed the decision to cancel Summertime Streets.
    "The 2019 installation was such a disaster for the business community and visitors that it very much had to be revisited," he said.

    I'm intrigued to the extent that the Gold Bros's business relies on motor traffic. Surely no-one is driving into town with the express purpose of buying a seeyouJimmyhat or a drinking kilt? And town looked pretty busy to me last summer when the summertime streets initiative was in place. Or is it just an issue for shop owners? (Has anyone seen a Gold brother walk?)

    The Gold Brothers own 25 shops in the city centre, including several tourist souvenir businesses on the Royal Mile.

    JFC. 25 shops.

    He said new ideas were needed to draw local people into the city centre until international tourists returned.
    "With no Edinburgh festivals we can look to create something more home grown with the outstanding talent we have here in Scotland and offer something new that promotes a welcoming, fun and festive environment in new, creative ways," he added.
    Mr Singh said it would be "wonderful" if people from Edinburgh, Scotland and the north of England were able to "reconnect" the city and what it has to offer.

    And presumably a spot of traffic queues, diesel fumes and lots of parked cars strewn around the place will make it a more attractive place for people to visit? Are all these folk from the north of England going to drive up?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The only people I've ever seen drive to a Gold Bros shop are the Gold brothers. As it is in Roseburn so shall it be in the High Street.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Morningsider
    Member

    @IWRATS - yes, Cllr MacInnes tweeted that today was the day. I actually cycled that way yesterday evening - but no sign of anything happening. The photos that I had seen on twitter made it look like there had been some action - but it turned out to be about 20m of refreshed white lining and a couple of red patches applied to short sections of the advisory lane.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    No wands as of 10am.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh City Council say this next stage of their active travel plans will “focus on supporting economic recovery, as and when businesses begin to reopen” and are being introduced ahead of potential further easing of lockdown by the Scottish Government.

    They follow more than 1,500 suggestions to the council for active travel measures across the city, which the council say are being used to develop the final designs of any measures.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/pavements-be-widened-and-bus-gates-installed-edinburgh-city-centre-streets-next-week-2875906#gsc.tab=0

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Stickman
    Member

    The council was given £5m, presumably based on an application setting out what they planned to do with the money. Is it too much to ask that the plans are shared?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. Morningsider
    Member

    No rush - after all, Department for Transport figures show that motor traffic increased from around 60% to 70% of the usual levels over the last fortnight. A similar scale of increase occurred over the preceding fortnight.

    How long could this trend continue? Offices and schools are still shut, so you could argue it might peak at 80ish percent in the next month (commutes are around 20ish percent of all trips). However, a reduction in public transport capacity of between 90% and 75% could easily push traffic way beyond normal levels - in which case, we could hit gridlock even before schools return.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Gonna take me a stroll and check out them wands on Old Dalkeith Road. Quick sweepstakes: how many are in already?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    Zero or zilch?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. CycleAlex
    Member

    We are aiming to introduce the first changes by the end of next week, which include:

      The partial closure of Waverley Bridge at the junction with East Market Street, helping pedestrians and cyclists travel safely while meeting physical distancing requirements

      Footway widening at junctions and a bus, cycle and taxi gate on North Bridge to improve pedestrian routes and aid cycling and public transport provision

      Footway widening and a bus, cycle and taxi gate on East Princes Street and South St David Street

    Which we aim to implement during the week commencing 15 June and include:

      Widened footways and segregated cycleways on George IV Bridge to allow people to access shops, bars and restaurants safely

      Widened footways and a segregated uphill cycleway on the Mound and Bank Street for access to local businesses

      Reduced through traffic and widened pavements on South Bridge for better pedestrian access

      Introduction of a short section of segregated cycleway on Forrest Road, leading towards George IV Bridge


    From 15 June we will also be notifying stakeholders of plans for footway widening and servicing arrangements in local town centres. These include: Morningside, Bruntsfield, Tollcross, Gorgie/Dalry, Newington/Southside, Portobello, Corstorphine High Street and Queensferry High Street.

    @Stickman I believe the press release alongside the map tool launch mentioned they would add which schemes have been assessed and progressed.

    @IWRATS I notice the CEC pagehas changed ODR/CRS works to "work started 5 June", implying they won't finish today so I would prepare to be disappointed.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. fimm
    Member

    Mr fimm and I have both cycled up Corstorphine Road today.
    Mr fimm was out at 9am and thought it was quiet. I went at lunchtime and found it busy and unpleasant - to the extent that I returned home by a different route.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @CycleAlex

    I'm from Aberdeen. We are born prepared for disappointment.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Who had zero in the Friday wands sweepstake? Why Papa Gembo!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    And traffic was as fast and nearly as heavy as in the Before Times.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. Morningsider
    Member

    Tweet from the Council sent at 10:54 yesterday:

    "Old Dalkeith Rd and Crewe Rd South - latest measures from action plan to create more safe and accessible spaces to help you travel and physical distance. Work starts this week on these key routes to and from hospitals. Complete by Fri."

    Falling behind within a day is quite the achievement.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    I sense resistance within the Roads Dept. The Planning Dept et cetera

    Took me and the ever awesome Bryan M Two years to get the No Entry signs and the Except Cycles signs put up at top of New St as drivers do not understand the more elegant One sign for No Motorised Transport (they think it means no Evil Kneivels) but the Sign Dept say the Rule is minimal signiage so one sign that nobody follows is better than two signs that people undertstand.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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