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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. AIMC
    Member

    'Let's get those cones out and paint down'

    Well we're going to need a lot of paint and a lot of cones. I've just been out for a run in south Edinburgh and none of the pavements are wide enough. Spent a lot of time running on the road just to maintain social distance. That won't be possible once everyone gets back in their cars.

    When cycling I'm also aware of narrow pavements and try to cycle further away from the pavement and pedestrians. Again this will be challenging and probably dangerous once people allowed back in their cars.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  2. Stickman
    Member

    There were rumours of a trial of modal filtering around Corstorphine (Manse Road/Featherhall) with resident communications set to go out before Covid hit. Presumably these plans can get implemented immediately?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  3. CycleAlex
    Member

    I think the fact it isn't new money is a valid concern - at the end of the day, any reduction in the £80m means there will be fewer permanent projects delivered. More importantly perhaps, there will be less money available to convert temporary measures into permanent ones.

    Stuff like this is no doubt part of why things take so long:
    https://twitter.com/jomowat/status/1255197782048149505?s=20

    I look forward to seeing the decision making process explained and criteria for selection and prioritisation.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  4. Rob
    Member

    I had similar ideas to convert Craigentinny into crescents/cul-de-sacs. The North/South residential streets become rat runs to avoid queues at the east end of Wakefield Avenue.

    Approached councilors who showed no interest. Then I moved away.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  5. Morningsider
    Member

    @CycleAlex - wishing to delay emergency public health measures in the middle of a global pandemic! That's quite the bold political strategy.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  6. Stickman
    Member

    @Morningsider: I hope that the planning application for the SECC’s change of use to a hospital went through all the correct committees and that the public were given enough notice to object.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  7. Morningsider
    Member

    @Stickman - even better. The Scottish Government simply changed the law* to allow a health board to undertake any development necessary to deal with an emergency, without the need to obtain planning permission.

    *The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Coronavirus) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2020

    Posted 4 years ago #

  8. acsimpson
    Member

    The Scottish Government simply changed the law* to allow a health board to undertake any development necessary to deal with an emergency, without the need to obtain planning permission.

    Can we redirect the £900K to NHS lothian and ask them to build whatever cycle and walking facilities they see as best for travel around the city.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  9. Stickman
    Member

    Quick progress!

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/1255532674283900930?s=21

    “ From tomorrow Silverknowes Road will be *CLOSED* between Marine Drive to its junction with Silverknowes Parkway until 21st May.

    This is to facilitate improved safety for pedestrians and cyclists during the current Covid-19 pandemic. #edintravel

    *There will be similar road closures on Braid Road, Braid Hills Drive and Links Gardens (from Gladstone Place to Links Gardens Lane) tomorrow until 21st May. #edintravel“

    Posted 4 years ago #

  10. CycleAlex
    Member

    Initial changes seem to be coming through now:
    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/1255532674283900930?s=20

    From tomorrow Silverknowes Road will be *CLOSED* between Marine Drive to its junction with Silverknowes Parkway until 21st May.

    This is to facilitate improved safety for pedestrians and cyclists during the current Covid-19 pandemic. #edintravel

    *There will be similar road closures on Braid Road, Braid Hills Drive and Links Gardens (from Gladstone Place to Links Gardens Lane) tomorrow until 21st May. #edintravel

     Snap - hopefully first of many!

    Posted 4 years ago #

  11. gembo
    Member

    TTROs guidance out today so seems to be possible?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  12. Rosie
    Member

    How American cities could be altered:-

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/how-pandemic-will-change-face-retail/610738/

    I look forward to the rents collapsing in inner city Edinburgh and artists moving into the equivalent of warehouse and loft space i.e. Debenhams and Jenners.

    I remember when Broughton Street and the environs had political activists renting offices.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  13. CycleAlex
    Member

    I notice the Edin'Travel tweets have been deleted - perhaps CEC are waiting to do an announcement and they jumped the gun when they got the TTRO notices.

    As I say that, Lesley Macinnes appears to be making that very announcement: https://twitter.com/lmacinnessnp/status/1255549180451459072?s=20

    Posted 4 years ago #

  14. jonty
    Member

    Ironically Braid Road is already mid-roadworks for what passed for 'active travel improvements' pre-crisis.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  15. gembo
    Member

    Braid Road closed at both ends, excellent hilly TT though some people live within the closure so not completely traffic free? They must have some. Way in an out i guess?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  16. Morningsider
    Member

    Nice one - I'm assuming there will be many more to come. Particularly important that pavements are widened in suburban shopping streets, already busy with food shoppers and blighted by narrow pavements - places like Morningside Road, Raeburn Place, Dalry Road etc.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  17. Frenchy
    Member

    Braid Hills Road (and Drive) would have more sense. To me, anyway.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  18. gembo
    Member

    Yeah braid Hills - boulevard with huge camber AuTISTIC golf Driving range on one side BRAIDS. 1 anD 2 THe OTHER

    Posted 4 years ago #

  19. Frenchy
    Member

    News on Braid Hills Drive coming next week, apparently.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  20. shuggiet
    Member

    Braid road presumably because of the pedestrian congestion at entrance to Hermitage. Good move and easy to do..also largely solves the chronic speeding problem on that road.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  21. wingpig
    Member

    Leith Links Community Council mentioning something about Links Gardens being closed except for human-scale travel from Friday for three weeks...

    Posted 4 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/emergency-closure-three-edinburgh-roads-walkers-and-cyclists-2563341

    Posted 4 years ago #

  23. Rosie
    Member

    A good twitter thread about the sudden realisation that acres of tarmac are not necessarily for cars.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BrettPetzer/status/1255479872849358850

    Posted 4 years ago #

  24. chdot
    Admin

    From link -

    “

    It is like watching decades of activism happen in a month. Like watching generations of 'cycling and walking plans' or 'sustainable mobility plans', which have always been aspirations, turn into facts (literally) overnight. The fight for urban space has turned competitive - 2/n

    ...

    These new thoughts are powerful. The sudden necessity of 1.5m-2m distances between people, has produced by fiat an enormous and powerful 'walking lobby' of a kind that has always been (1) missing or (2) outgunned by the car lobby in the past, in most (esp. rich) countries 12/n

    ...

    If you live in a city that is doing this, please loudly and brightly support it. If you don't, please frame radical demands and disseminate. This is the moment in which it is non-obvious that you and the people you care about should (continue) not (to) have these things. 17/n

    “

    Posted 4 years ago #

  25. Stickman
    Member

    Tories getting stuck into this: “what processes have been followed, what about delivery drivers, this is the end of democracy”

    Posted 4 years ago #

  26. crowriver
    Member

    Why not the proverbial "elephant in the room" - Holyrood Park? Why are roads and car parks still open?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  27. chdot
    Admin

    “this is the end of democracy”

    Think that happened a few weeks ago with the two year emergency legislation...

    (Two years no longer seems quite so inappropriate.)

    Posted 4 years ago #

  28. MediumDave
    Member

    Not being a social media person**, I emailed my councillors firstly to say "yes, great, more please, make it permanent" and secondly to ask "how do we contribute to the 'masterplan' going to the May sustainablity meeting" and finally to suggest a few local areas where #spacefordistancing is needed.

    ** I much preferred the internet when it was antisocial...

    Posted 4 years ago #

  29. Rosie
    Member

    I've just heard Chris Boardman on Radio 4's You and Yours programme talking about the upsurge in cycling in 1955 levels of traffic.

    Also bike shops can't keep up with the demand for new cycles.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  30. chdot
    Admin

    Talking of democracy

    Behind closed doors?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/google-executive-took-part-in-sage-meeting-coronavirus-tech-firm-confirms

    Posted 4 years ago #

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