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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. gembo
    Member

    @cyclealex

    Yes gonna get a Poster of Evil Knievel and stick it below that

    This will be the most transgressed road sign in Embra, even worse than the ones atop new street which IIRC had a red circle...hmmm not definite

    THis one YOu can enter, any time these hours are notional, so long as you a=can fly your motorbike over a bus plus all other vehicles are authorized. Simples

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Roibeard
    Member

    Camera monitored, in the fullness of time, one hopes!

    Robert

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. CycleAlex
    Member

    Admittedly it is a tad confusing right now - if you're coming up Nth St David St it's bus/taxi/cycle only into George St, you then have a no left turn into the square, a bus gate ahead and a pedestrian zone to your right.

    @gembo I never understand why councils use the no motor vehicles sign. Sure it might be more correct on paper but what use is that if no one understands it?!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @CycleAlex I believe all traffic coming up Nth St David St is now allowed to turn right into George St :rolls eyes:

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

  6. gembo
    Member

    @cyclealex

    Pressure to have less signage

    Expert’s misunderestimating how stupid some drivers are

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    Local town centre plans being issued: parking suspended, widened pavements, barriers and street clutter being removed. So far I’ve seen tweets about Corstorphine, Stockbridge and Portobello. No doubt more are out there.

    “Phase 2” to come: that will be the hard stuff of improving cycling, reducing traffic.

    Things may about to be on the cusp of nearly beginning to start the initial stages of possibly being implemented.

    https://twitter.com/halosler/status/1274065061145989120?s=21

    https://twitter.com/spokesporty/status/1274050543489515521?s=21

    https://twitter.com/harts_cyclery/status/1274040295349420036?s=21

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    Town centre proposals are for:

    Porty High St,
    Tollcross,
    Stockbridge,
    Corstorphine,
    Bridges-Minto St
    Gorgie and Dalry
    Easter Rd/Great Junction St,
    Morningside/Bruntsfield,
    South Queensferry

    I haven't checked them all, but they all seem to be along the same general lines: widen footways by suspending all parking except loading/disabled bays, remove street clutter and pedestrian guardrail.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/restaurant-owners-call-pedestrianise-iconic-edinburgh-street-favour-al-fresco-dining-2889730

    There are already plans to pedestrianise Victoria Street in the next 10 years under Edinburgh City Council’s City Centre Transformation, but the restaurant owners are calling for this to happen sooner, in line with the easing of lockdown restrictions.

    Matt Shahfar, owner of Mariachi Mexican restaurant, which is one of the few eateries on Victoria Street to have an outdoor courtyard space, has also joined the call to allow on-street dining.

    “Given the current climate, if they’re going to change the street it would be better to do it sooner rather than later,” he said.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I wonder what the attitude will be in November.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. CycleAlex
    Member

    I got a sponsored post on Facebook from the Boardwalk Beach Club ranting about the 'bungling' council and its discrimination against them over the Silverknowes Rd closure.

    I take it they may not be a fan.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. mkoerner
    Member

    Boardwalk Beach Club feels constantly discriminated against. I still remember them ranting last year that they were discriminated by Just Eat Bikes for not installing a hire point there when the bikes were rolled out last year. Reading their posts on social media indicates a massive conspiracy of Edinburgh Council against them for years.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    Borwalk bonkers. If he does not own building and council make him enter he will explode

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. Stickman
    Member

    He’s linked to @kaputnik’s excellent video about the old railway lines and complained that they’ve been turned into “noddy cycle tracks”.

    That won’t help get his TripAdvisor average above its current two stars...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. steveo
    Member

    Is he related to PG by any chance? Maybe they could form a self help group.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Fellow Fietsclubber bemoaning the resurfacing of Cowgate, said it was a great technical mountain bike descent with added beer lorries. Now it is just a road

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. ejstubbs
    Member

    @gembo: This will be the most transgressed road sign in Embra

    Hmm, I reckon it'll have its work cut out to beat this one at the south end of Inglis Green Road. I can't remember the last time I went through the junction with Lanark Road and didn't see a car or van snicking through the in segregated bus lane to avoid having to wait at the traffic lights to turn left there. (OK, maybe once or twice during lockdown since there was so little traffic about, at least to begin with.)

    And I don't think it's people not understanding the sign, which is not dissimilar to the one in CycleAlex's photo (though the one at Longstone applies 24x7, and says so). It's just impatient, lazy, entitled drivists who DGAF and know they won't get caught. I've certainly never seen any enforcement there. I reckon a bus lane camera there would pay for itself in about a week.

    I actually think another close contender for most transgressed would be this one at Haymarket, and its twin at the other end of the tram stop. In this case, however (a) it's really easy to understand, and (b) it's cyclists who regularly abuse them (and as a consequence, cause conflict at the pedestrian lights at each end of the tram stop - because there's no signal for normal traffic because normal traffic is not supposed to be there).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Yes I know that one @ejstubbs and have seen transgressors but you can at least see them coming.

    The whole of that junction is bad drivers will sit in the left lane but go straight on which can be dangerous if you are then stuck in the straight ahead lane

    Even at the bonnie proncce charlie bridge (the next junction east) I have had many issues

    Agree that some driverS e.g. taxi drivers I have had standoffs with knew the New St one way was a crime but chanced it daily. Others are very stupid remember.

    Or on their phones et cetera

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    @gembo: Borwalk bonkers. If he does not own building and council make him enter he will explode

    This reminds me of Malcolm Duck, who ran a restaurant on Eyre Place and seemed to spend a good deal of his time ranting about the iniquities of CEC, unfairness of the business rates system etc etc. And that was in the days before Twitter and Facebook. ISTR that one of his pet complaints was the difficulties that his customers had parking outside his restaurant. In all the time I worked just round the corner form there, I never felt at all inclined to visit his establishment - I couldn't get over the feeling that his bitterness would extend to the food he served.

    He eventually upped sticks and relocated to Aberlady, where of course parking for his customers on the main street is so much easier and doesn't cause any problems at all...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    @ejstubbs

    Yes I typed Tender but was changed to enter??? anyway Boardwalk Bonkers will explode if he has to tender for what is ostensibly his (if he doesn’t own the building)

    Malcom Duck is a good connection

    My dad (who was a professional golfer) had to shepherd him and Johnnie Walker Heir around Old Prestwick during a Pro-am once. Was obvious from first hole, a very short par 4 but tight against the railway line. That my dad’s team would be winning nothing so he went with the flow. Johnnie Walker heir had on tweed plus fours and suit jacket with bottles in many pockets. At least Duck could hit the ball.
    We went to the restaurant once and was good but Malcolm very Fruity.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. sallyhinch
    Member

    If you're curious, here's a list of what every council in Scotland is doing or planning - or at least would admit to. There are a fair few who have bid for and received money but have not made any public statement on any easily accessible part of their websites although occasionally we've found some information buried in committee papers, if you know where to look. You'd think it was drug money ...

    https://pedalonparliament.org/space-for-distancing-what-is-your-council-doing/

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Morningsider
    Member

    @sallyhinch - sterling work, as ever.

    Yet again a volunteer cycle campaigner does the work of Transport Scotland, Sustrans Scotland and Cycling Scotland.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    +1

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Morningsider
    Member

    I see that Waverley Bridge is now closed to vehicles.

    Well, as long as you don't count taxis or delivery vehicles serving the Waverley Market, Wetherspoons and Waverley station as vehicles.

    Doesn't even make sense from a social distancing perspective - as pedestrians going to/from Waverley station are corralled into narrow footpaths on the ramps, which are far slimmer than the existing pavements on Waverley Bridge.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    Let's not forget bikes are also vehicles too! ;)

    Just not fossil-fuel-motorised...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    A lady drove her people carrier right through Braidburn Terrace towards the Hermitage and I have no idea if this is legal or what?

    Lights went green and people tried to turn right off Comiston Drive straight into me so I forced them comically wide, half way down to Morningside.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. steveo
    Member

    There are roadworks at the junction of Stenhouse Drive and Saughton Mains with a temporary contraflow using, yes wands. Guess what, all still present and correct.

    The reason is left as a exercise for the reader.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. fimm
    Member

    IWATS it is legal in that direction and not the other, IIRC.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. Stickman
    Member

    Segregation using wands is proving to be hugely successful.

    https://twitter.com/emmalougheed/status/1275134464600018947?s=21

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. Stickman
    Member

    Motion by Cllr Webber for this week’s council meeting. After all their opposition to reducing speed limits it’s nice to see them push for this.

    “ By Councillor Webber - Rural Roads Speed Review (Spaces for People)

    “Committee:

    1) Recognises that across the suburban parts of the city the rural road network plays a pivotal role in connecting communities and in the working life of the many farms that we are fortunate to have within our city boundary. As such we should not close these routes to vehicular traffic.

    2) Recognises that many adjacent arterial routes have speed restrictions with limits ranging from 30mph to 50mph. These roads are often wider with better visibility offering relative increased safety for all road users.

    3) Recognises that, right now, many rural roads are experiencing higher use from both pedestrians and cyclists.

    4) Recognises that many Community Councils and local groups have submitted requests to reduce the speeds on specific rural roads to make walking safer through the “Safe Spaces for People” website but that as yet, none of these have progressed beyond submission.

    5) Requests a report in one cycle outlining progress on the temporary review of speed limits on the identified rural roads as part of the “Safe Spaces for People” initiative within the city boundary where the current restriction is the national speed limit and seeks to accelerate temporary implementation plans.”

    Posted 5 years ago #

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