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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  • Started 4 years ago by HankChief
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  1. Morningsider
    Member

    what processes have been followed

    The processes set out in Section 14(2) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. If I'm not mistaken, a procedure created by a Conservative UK Government.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    Imagine delivery drivers having to walk a few yards to deliver things or switch to cycle couriers how terrible they should be able to drive where they like.

    As a cyclist everyone should have too much cognitive dissonance to resolve to be able to vote Tory.

    Also libertarian and uselessness of this govt has put us second in the world (in a few weeks) next to the other idiotic regime. In terms of killing citizens. Must figure too old to vote or too poor to vote Tory?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. CycleAlex
    Member

    An interestingly line that I didn't notice at first in the council's press release

    Alongside this, we will be investigating early delivery of some of our more ambitious active travel projects which will help people to make essential journeys safely and quickly as we move towards a new normal.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “we will be investigating early delivery”

    That’s nice...

    With this money??

    Or different magic money???

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Some more details, from an update email about the ongoing (but suspended) work on Braid Road:

    "Braid Road which will be closed between Braidburn Terrace and a point near to the hotel, north of Braid Farm Road."

    "In the medium term, as lockdown measures continue and are eventually eased, we will develop a citywide approach to more significant changes, such as expanded cycle lanes and the creation of bus gates. Longer term, it is proposed that progress on more permanent schemes under the Active Travel Programme is brought forward."

    Pleasantly surprised to see bus gates being considered.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. HankChief
    Member

    Cammo Walk is shutting too. Which is great as it is already hooching with people on foot and cycles

    https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1256114552518987776?s=19

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  7. Stickman
    Member

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/shambolic-and-rushed-through-edinburgh-tories-blast-councils-handling-emergency-road-closures-walkers-and-cyclists-2613579

    Conservative leader Iain Whyte criticised the council and questioned whether the decision to shut roads was being motivated by politics rather than safety, while Cllr Nick Cook said concerns over deliveries and funerals had been raised by his constituents.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    Funerals!? I really thought I had heard it all when it came to the Tories arguments against safer streets, but that takes the biscuit.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    Shame the folk who vote for these idiots will continue to do so regardless.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    When someone tells you who they are - believe them.

    Mr Cook wishes there to be more funerals.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. Stickman
    Member

    @hankchief, sorry for derailing your good news....there’s no reason for Cammo Walk to be open to traffic at any time, so this is very welcome. Enjoy your new found safety!

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  12. gkgk
    Member

    @crowriver : I think I read yesterday (twitter) that Holyrood Park has finally shut the little car parks and put sign up limiting main one (beside palace) to key workers (parliament staff?) and people w mobility issues. A sign alone won't work, but still, progress of sorts.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

  14. chdot
    Admin

    Well...

    Mr McVey said policy makers are also looking to free up spaces where cars are currently parked as well as road closures to increase pedestrianised areas.

    He added: “There is certainly aspiration that we can take road space and transfer it into pedestrian space.

    “I would expect to see space that’s currently occupied by parked cars transferred over.”

    Some people might even think about selling them(?)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. Morningsider
    Member

    Wow - this is really happening. Thank you to all the Councillors who are supporting road closures, pavement widening and the creation of temporary cycle lanes.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. crowriver
    Member

    It is positive that Edinburgh is taking these steps.

    However am I alone in feeling somewhat disappointed that they did not happen earlier? Also that the SNP led council seems to feel it has to wait until the SNP government gives the okay before making a move.

    I know local government has been in a bad place for decades, but I just wish they would be more local and care less for central party control.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. jdanielp
    Member

    Braid Road isn't shut yet. There are cones along the side of the road, presumably to indicate that people should not park their vehicles there, yet there were several vehicles parked there - also a fair number along Braid Hills Drive.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Stickman
    Member

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/01/city-leaders-aim-to-shape-green-recovery-from-coronavirus-crisis

    Daisy Narayanan, the director of urbanism at Sustrans, agreed that the recovery from the Covid-19 crisis could be “a catalyst for long-lasting change in the way we live and travel, especially in towns and cities. What Covid-19 has also done is to highlight the crossovers between the quality of our places, public health, economy, transport, education, air quality and social justice.”

    Seven things city leaders can do to drive a green, fair recovery from Covid-19
    Remove through motor traffic from residential streets and extend pavements near shops, schools and parks to make walking safe and enjoyable for transport and exercise.
    Introduce safe access routes on foot, bike and scooter from homes to parks and green spaces and introduce automatic pedestrian lights at crossings so people do not have to push buttons and risk infection.
    Establish safe cycle routes to and from work for key workers, especially hospital staff, by closing roads and carriageways where necessary so people have a safe alternative to private cars and public transport.
    Create safe walking and cycling routes to and from schools, and close down streets around schools to motor vehicles at drop-off and pickup times.
    Use libraries, schools and sports stadiums to distribute nutritious, sustainably produced food to communities that need it most, and scale up food waste collection and treatment, including distributing household composting kits and guidance.
    Retrofit all public buildings, many of which are empty now, drastically improving energy efficiency and creating thousands of green jobs.
    Work with other cities to invest the billions tied up in city funds and pensions in climate solutions to drive green job creation and create a more resilient and sustainable economy.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. CycleAlex
    Member

    @crowriver They probably needed official guidance from TS on how they could use TTROs before they could do much.

    Money also no doubt part of it. While the measures themselves will be cheap, I imagine it takes quite a bit of officer time to research/organise/deal with conservative councillors/plan etc.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This is so infuriating.

    https://twitter.com/SustransScot/status/1256229483708928000

    So many tiny miserable paths.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. Stickman
    Member

    Purely coincidental that the Conservatives’ outrage about a lack of consultation or communication happens to let them maintain their pre-existing opposition to any change in road space allocation.

    It’s democracy they care about. As Cllr Cook said, people have died for our precious won democracy. That’s all that this is about.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    @gkgk, window dressing really given that the main car park opposite Parliament is still open. The roads need to be closed, the park is not and should not be an arterial route for motor traffic.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. Stickman
    Member

    https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/01/encourage-cycling-and-walking-after-lockdown-uk-mayors-told

    It was very interesting that the prime minister was talking about taking the opportunity to push clean, green travel, active travel, cycling infrastructure and getting cars off the road,” Driscoll said.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    All you need to know about road usage in Holyrood Park and inconsistency from certain politicians.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/fast-and-furious-9-production-crew-set-camp-edinburghs-holyrood-park-filming-september-542355

    Thanks to Mrs LB for reminding me of the car park full of film production vehicles.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. jdanielp
    Member

    The main car park had a sign at the entrance today saying that it is only for key workers and blue badge holders or something along those lines. There was also a new sign up at the gate at the bottom of the road around the back but I didn't get close enough to read since others were doing so. I'm hoping it doesn't say anything about not cycling. Holyrood Park seemed relatively quiet when I was passing through it earlier this afternoon, but the roads between Duddingston Village up to Craigmillar Castle were busier than I have seen them since the lockdown came into play.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Some early modelling by TfL has revealed there could be a more than ten-fold increase in kilometres cycled, and up to five times the amount of walking, compared to pre-COVID levels if demand returns.

    https://www.bikebiz.com/mayors-streetspace-plan-could-see-cycling-increased-tenfold-post-lockdown/amp/

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

  28. Frenchy
    Member

    Braid Road still open today, but there are cones out along the kerb, and signs threatening towing of parked vehicles. A parking attendant even went along whilst I was there, which is a very rare sight in the south of the city.

    Shortly after the parking attendant was sticking bits of paper under the windscreen wipers of vehicles parked on the pavement of Braid Hills Drive. No parking restrictions there, so presume they were just along the lines of "Please don't park so selfishly".

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. Stickman
    Member

    Frank Ross’ journey from initial opposition to the Roseburn cycle route is complete:

    https://twitter.com/frankross06/status/1256587982880083968?s=21

    Totally agree the time to introduce dedicated , protected cycling facilities along the A8 from Corstorphine to the City Centre is now. Pollution levels have reduced dramatically and we must ensure they do not increase.

    Pavements must also be improved and widened where required to promote and encourage walking.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    I hypnotized Frank Ross at Fairtrade Coffee morning where he had a great time on the Smoothie Bike.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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