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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  • Started 3 years ago by HankChief
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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    Half price for a second-hand loaf seems about right to me.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    @frenchy

    Not second hand, the same if not the identical loaf.

    If ever in Ayr I do advise going to the bakery down in the north harbour area.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “perhaps if they are vociferously anti safe cycling they should reconsider?“

    Is that one of their issues?

    Pavement widening there is for peds/social distancing isn’t it?

    Maybe takings are down because of (car) parking, but there’s a bigger picture - including the fact that many businesses haven’t been able to remain open.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    I don’t know, maybe people are less keen to pay 13 quid for a loaf?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. acsimpson
    Member

    Just a thought but if traders were less keen to advertise their area as a war zone they might not put people off visiting.

    They clearly aren't great marketers.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. CycleAlex
    Member

    I was going to pop-by but didn't want to get caught up in a genocide...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    Eight! Cars in the new cycle lanes on George IV Bridge tonight, including #SY08WKC #SA16BV. With piles of cones on the pavement at the end. One car was even reversed down the lane to outside thistle gifts

    https://twitter.com/yplac_ed/status/1290719839703703553?s=21

    And the council response?

    Spoke 2 officers about a similar issue in my ward today & asked about enforcement. Told need individuals to “buy into” the idea my response “not sure that’s happening, so what else r we going to do” ......:beyond depressing

    https://twitter.com/halosler/status/1290739908240449539?s=21

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    @ac Simpson. Remember the traders are really seek8ng to be able to park outside their premises without paying for this privilege as is included in the rates they pay.?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Or don’t pay.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    @gembo What power source does your bakery use?

    Have the individuals been officially told they ought to buy into the idea? Presumably they're hoping they'll all be retired by the time permanent segregated lanes are installed.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. Roibeard
    Member

    I think the "petition against them" is a petition by the bakers against the cones, rather than a petition against the bakers.

    Robert

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Thanks @roibeard. The bakery against cones so will possibly alienate customers like me.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I love a naked power play. Council officers and selfish motorists now outing themselves as the groups who cannot be criticised, countered or directed?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. fimm
    Member

    Apologies for the typo and lack of clarity in my post - it was done in a hurry on my phone.
    I didn't investigate the petition but it was something about "Stop the council destroying businesses by removing parking".
    I was so angry but I decided to post here rather than post rude things on Facebook.

    How do we help people to understand that we cannot go on as we are? This isn't about Covid, it is about the climate crisis, health, and so on. We have to do differently.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. Stickman
    Member

    Here’s a question: is there a TTRO in place for the George IV Bridge lanes? I can only find one for the southernmost part. So at the moment parking in the rest of the lanes is allowed. If so, it’s yet another council screwup.

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/27858/temp-20-123

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    “How do we help people to understand that we cannot go on as we are?“

    Now there’s a question.

    It’s probably impossible.

    Some people don’t want to contemplate much beyond their version/experience of ‘normal’.

    Some people know ‘it’ can’t go on, but have little understanding of how things could be suitably different - at least via changes that they/we/I have much control over.

    Meanwhile there are people who deliberately try to derail ‘better’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m000l7q1

    - and succeed in delaying/obscuring things, mostly before Facebook algorithms came along to help.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. Rob
    Member

    Some people are so invested in the way things are they just aren't capable of seeing a different way. No amount of "engagement" or "bringing along" will work on someone who simply wants to drive/park where they like.

    LTNs for example - you can spend all day pointing out the many filters/cul-de-sacs all over the city but if you're closing a street they only see as a rat-run, they're never going to support it.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    Not entirely unrelated -

    “My father’s view was that democracy was like two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner,” says Stewart, “and indeed in the Arab world it’s very much like that. My father wasn’t in the business of exporting democracy. He was in the business of getting the oil to the west by hook or by crook.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/05/stewart-copeland-father-miles-cia-spy-the-police

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. CycleAlex
    Member

    Quite a few new school schemes, mostly around removing guardrail/vegetation and widening pavements. Some road closures too:
    Montpelier/Bruntsfield Avenue/Canaan Lane/Great Michael Rise/Cammo Road/Sighthill Loan/Granton Road lane

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/documents/members-campaigning/edinburgh/edinburgh-covid-schemes/ (at the bottom)

    Ferry Rd cycle lane should also start to be installed this week and Comiston Rd from next week.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. Frenchy
    Member

    Ferry Rd cycle lane should also start to be installed this week and Comiston Rd from next week.

    Where are you finding that out?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. kirstinh
    Member

    There was certainly something in progress when I walked past at lunchtime today - previously dashed white line replaced with a solid one, and zigzags at crossings moved to main carriageway.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. minus six
    Member

    My father’s view was that democracy was like two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner

    i'm about to start reading that dude's autobiography after i finish reading Mark Lanegan's, which is very good indeed, remarkably so as i have never heard any of his musical output whatsoever

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    Miles Copeland was friend of Kim Philby

    Mark Lanegan - Sparklehorse?

    Aw shucks, that is Mark Linkous

    Mark Lanegan Screaming Trees

    Now to find out which one worked with Isabel Campbell.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. Frenchy
    Member

    Lanegan's autobiography is near the top of my to read pile - good to get your recommendation, @bax.

    Lanegan's musical output is worth looking into. Screaming Trees and his Isobel Campbell collaborations, as @gembo says, but also his solo work and work on early Queens of the Stone Age albums.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. CycleAlex
    Member

  27. Frenchy
    Member

    Nice one, cheers.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. stiltskin
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  29. wingpig
    Member

    Finally popped out for a look at some of these facilities. The Mound uphill isn't bad, though there were two pedestrians in it on Bank St and I wasn't there at the right time to see what happens with buses at the corner. Lots of parked cars on GIVB, so I went along the roadway. The mere 10m remaining on Forrest Road was alright, but I should have visited it sooner.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. fimm
    Member

    Mr fimm was in Moffat yesterday and reports that the cafes in the square there have chairs and tables out on the pavement in front of them. This blocks the pavement, so the pavement has been moved into the road - the whole arrangement done with solid barriers so it is clear what is going on. He was impressed.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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