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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. Morningsider
    Member

    In one of Scotland's regular bahookie/elbow confusions, it turns out that while all the active travel "charities" are exhorting parents to get their kids to walk, cycle or scoot to school - many schools are telling parents that bikes and scooters should not be brought into school and that bike/scooter storage is currently closed.

    Obviously, what the schools say goes - so expect some serious traffic congestion later in the week.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Morningsider

    Let us sweep all away with an iron broom. Fire and sword. Year zero. Fresh start.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    We may not have any new cycle lanes but don’t worry, a new campaign has been launched.

    https://www.transport.gov.scot/news/back-to-school-travel/

    Douglas Cairns from Transport Scotland said:

    “While it’s welcome news that schools are reopening, it will put pressure on our road network and our public transport system as physical distancing rules are still in place.

    “The Travel Safe campaign is asking commuters to help us keep Scotland moving by only travelling if you need to, and working from home if you can.

    “If you do need to travel please walk, wheel or cycle wherever possible. You could also look to make your journey outside of the peak times.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    @Stickman - Transport Scotland officials, once again, showing the danger of months spent working a few feet away a drinks cabinet:

    When cycling you should maintain physical distancing. You should wash or sanitise your hands before and after cycling. We also recommend that you wash your cycle in case it is touched by another person either whilst cycling or at the destination of your journey.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    That all sounds fair enough to me, @Morningsider.

    Just waiting for the corollary announcement that people should wash their cars every time they're used...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    We also recommend that you wash your cycle in case it is touched by another person either whilst cycling or at the destination of your journey.

    You CANNOT be SERIOUS!!!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. Morningsider
    Member

    @chdot - yes really, just scroll down to the section headed "Walking, wheeling and cycling" - second last paragraph.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    I wasn’t disbelieving YOU!!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. acsimpson
    Member

    I propose we all start touching cars everytime we stop at the lights.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Before covid19 touching a car was a sure fire way of pushing the driver over the edge. Now it is an act of rebellion. Just make sure your exit lines are clear.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Just to confirm @gembo: it is actually physically possible to wash a bicycle. I know it sounds mad but it's actually quite effective for enhancing the cosmetics and indeed extending the life of components.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    only pedestrians - including people using wheelchairs and mobility scooters - should use the pavement.

    https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/47979/schooltransport_2000.png

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Transport Scotland officials, once again, showing the danger of months spent working a few feet away a drinks cabinet

    This stuff is genuinely infuriating.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Cycle Law Scotland are pushing on Preumed Liability

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Maybe Scot Gov could bung them a million to campaign for shared spaces instead?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Cycle Law Scotland did get sidetracked briefly on helmets but have seen the error of their ways and are back on the Presumed LIABILITY ticket

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Shared helmets?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Helmets for all

    Was bad

    I commented they’d be better cracking on with Presumed Liability, they said they were. Good people.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Drivers completely ignoring restrictions across the city:

    Cones now being replaced by ‘cylinders’ on Morningside Road - a step in the right direction…
    ...BUT guys installing them say that several have *already* been removed! This isn’t going to work without enforcement.

    https://twitter.com/livingstreetsed/status/1293504696909533184?s=21

    Some caring sole stacked all the cones up in Stockbridge to allow the cars to park. Zero enforcement that I can see. Complete disregard for the welfare of the pedestrian shoppers in Stockbridge that are by far the majority in supporting local businesses.

    https://twitter.com/stockbridgearch/status/1292617759877103617?s=21

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. Morningsider
    Member

    The Morningside Road wand bases appear to have been stuck onto the carriageway with some type of resin, rather than bolted down. I can't imagine this is an improvement.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. crowriver
    Member

    Spaces For People In Range Rovers.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The bitumen resin abides on Old Dalkeith Road. The wands don't but the bases do.

    I do love a naked demonstration of power and intent. No denying the selfish and aggressive nature of folk that remove space for people.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. wingpig
    Member

    Forrest Road lane clear yesterday evening at about 22:10, but at least ten vehicles on George IV Bridge northbound.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    Spaces For Ford Fiestas.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. crowriver
    Member

    Spaces For Vauxhall Corsas.

    Etc.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. Stickman
    Member

    A good summary of the West Craigs plans, including the previously missing detail that this area was chosen because of earlier work done for the West Edinburgh Link.

    https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2020/08/east-craigs-will-become-the-first-low-traffic-neighbourhood-in-edinburgh/

    Also, LibDems being LibDems once more. ACH wanting roads pedestrianised but not closed to traffic. That gas mask he wore for a publicity stunt must have interfered with the oxygen getting to his brain.

    We asked Mr Cole-Hamilton for a further comment in light of the fact that no consultation is required by The Scottish Government. He replied: “The Government released these funds to improve our streetscapes for active travel during lockdown. That meant widening pavements and pedestrianising certain roads. The East Craigs proposals go far beyond that with the introduction of penalised bus gates, filtered permeability and road closures. With Lockdown all but ended, it’s not clear whether the measures meet the original intent of the government’s vision so it’s only fair that local residents

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. amir
    Member

    Sorry if this has already been reported, but quite a lot of East Lothian's urban areas have been converted to 20mph zones. I only noticed today. It was noticeably more comfortable on my "commute" this morning, though a sizeable number are clearly exceeding the speed limit (easy to check if you cycle at 20mph!).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. acsimpson
    Member

    Maybury Road is unsurprisingly coping pretty well as a single carriageway 2 lane road. Cars are turning right out of Craigs Road currently, although the legality of this is questionable as there is not a no right turn sign.

    Although I'll take what is delivered I wonder if a minor tweak to put the bus gate closer to the high school and keep one side of Maybury closed would work.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    The main answer so far seems to be to encourage more solo “active travel”, by funding local councils to create “pop-up” facilities for pedestrians and cyclists; although in Edinburgh, at least, the chaos surrounding new bike lanes that have supposedly been years in the designing inspires little faith in those that might “pop up” at short notice.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/why-scotland-must-embrace-sustainable-change-after-covid-19-joyce-mcmillan-2942028

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. mga
    Member

    "Cycling is being pushed as a mode of travel,..."

    The chap in the above article's picture appears to be cycling for leisure rather than travel. This always annoys me as it gives the impression you need to look like this when getting from A to B on a bike.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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