“they just have to convince a small number to vote for them“
Sure, but the way they are going about things must mean some people will no longer vote for them(?)
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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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I do wonder if they are mistaking a few frothers on Twitter and in the Evening News as a substantial amount of voters.
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Yep, easy mistake...
Strangely there seem to be many more (local) ‘pro-cycling’/ ActiveTravel people on Twitter
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Ferry Road wands are in:
Saw some superb scenes on ferry road’s protected cycle lanes today: cyclists, cargo bikes & a mobility scooter all taking advantage of the #SpacesForPeople infrastructure.
https://twitter.com/adamrmcvey/status/1299011415685070848?s=21
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I do wonder if they are mistaking a few frothers on Twitter and in the Evening News as a substantial amount of voters.
And Community Councils.
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Tomorrow eve (Friday) I’m attending an open air event in Gyle Park @6pm to speak w/East Craigs residents about the proposed Low Traffic Neighbourhood. If you are interested in this pls come along - so far organisers have only advertised it on F’book so some may have missed it.
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https://twitter.com/lmacinnessnp/status/1299071748927893506
Will be interesting to see how many people turn up.
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It'll be interesting to see how many people drive there.
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On my cycle to the coffee barge I observed that the school run is back to full swing. Advisory cycle lanes entirely full of stored motor vehicles.
We've missed the window.
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It's being reported here there and everywhere that a sizeable proportion of employed people are continuing to work from home. Given that traffic volumes seem to be back up to (if not actually beyond, in some cases) pre-lockdown levels, I can't help wondering where the peak time traffic is coming from?
Obviously the school run contributes massively to the early part of the afternoon peak - can't have Coriander and Jeremy being run over by those nasty people in cars (sorry: people not like us, in other cars).
But yesterday I was walking up Oxgangs Road at just gone 5pm and I swear it was busier than it ever had been pre-lockdown (other than when the bypass was fubared). Is it people who do have to go to work shunning public transport and resorting to their single-occupant motor vehicles? Certainly the buses do seem to be pretty under-used still.
Whatever is causing it, it's disappointing and, as IRWATS suggests, will likely create strong pressure against any further increase in active travel facilities :(
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I was in Lothian Road at peak hour on Monday. Very busy with traffic though most people are wfh and the bus was a third full. Where are these people going?
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Google's data still says peak traffic is in the early afternoon, although there's now also a smaller peak at 9am which wasn't there a month ago.
So still plenty of room for things to get worse/time to put in ameliorations*.
*Delete depending on current position on the pessimism/optimism spectrum.
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@Frenchy where do you see that? I was hoping to use such data to compare Craigs Road/Drumbrae over the previous and next few months but couldn't find anything historical.
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"Very busy with traffic"
It only takes a small number of folk to take the car instead of the train or bus to cause traffic chaos.
Top of Easter Road has been one long traffic jam for a couple of months now: all day, every day, except Sunday. It only takes a dozen single occupant vehicles to form a tailback on a narrow street. Add in half a dozen folk trying to enter the queue with their vehicles from side streets and chaos ensues. Twenty vehicles and it's backed up to near the railway bridge.
It's a minority causing all this traffic.
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My workplace's planning for a (limited) return to office isn't going to allow those dependent on public transport to return. Driving (even though it has a very limited number of parking spaces), active travel or it may consider expensing taxis in a limited number of cases. Great. So yes, things can still get worse.
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@Murun Buchstansangur
Are they actually proposing disciplinary for people who take the train or bus?
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No, return to office is voluntary (for now). But it appears volunteers will only be accepted if they agree not to travel by PT.
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Beeb running with this cul-de-sac fake news now. Fave reporter once again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-53937707
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from the bbc article
We already have wide roads and pavements. These plans will make it very difficult for residents to go about their daily lives.immediately followed by a photo showing a council van completely blocking the full width of the pavement
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Indeed, the photos in the article are hilarious. A photo credited to Cole-Hamilton showing an utterly inadequate pavement and 'protestors' standing in the carriageway in an attempt to social distance. AC-H making a late run to break the Cook/Webber duopoly for most objectionable politician in Edinburgh?
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So in summary, a gas-mask wearing anti-pollution MSP has driven from his cul-de-sac home in order to distribute from his car boot leaflets advertising an anti-LTN meeting to be held in a public park which is plagued by parking on footpaths/grass and is accessed from a congested and polluted main road.
He’s a LibDem through and through.
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I like how the article makes it sound like the LTN will cost £5m too. Really tops it off.
Wonder when those against the LTN in East Craigs will pull out this line: "You are in violation of our right to move freely under the Magna Carta Article 61
You have no right to restrict our right to travel freely and to so is discrimination re the disabled act and equalities act of 2010." https://twitter.com/TravellingBuddy/status/1298940725044957185?s=20Posted 4 years ago # -
I thought Bughtlin was already a culdesac? What other route in is there other than from Maybury Road?
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@CycleAlex
What little legal force Magna Carta still has is limited to England alas. It has no effect at all in North Britain and we must live without even those meagre protections of our feudal liberties.
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I thought Bughtlin was already a culdesac? What other route in is there other than from Maybury Road?
It is, yes.
One might wonder if a politician spearheading a campaign against it should be aware of basic facts such as this.
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Bughtlin is also far larger in terms of area and population than any cul-de-sac being created in the scheme. It's within 100m or so in terms of max length.
10 seconds on google will point you to longer ones in England. And I'm sure there must be plenty of other examples of longer ones as 1 mile seems to be relatively commmon.
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I had a quick look at Bughtlin on Google Maps - interestingly it appears as though you can get out of the blocked ends of all the cul-de-sacs on foot (though possibly not legally by bike).
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LIVE THREAD of park meeting
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some high quality live tweeting right there
sounds like a lynching alas
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