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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes
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Lanes going to go in on the easy bit of Lanark Road:
https://twitter.com/ashleyannotate/status/1309474751769989121
I've twittered enthusiastic support...Posted 3 years ago # -
Underneath Ashley’s maps of Lanark Road there is an unrelated tweet from New Town Flaneur. He/she has posted a photo of a red triangular road sign with the traffic light symbol inside red amber green. Underneath the flaneur has posted - Acceptable Trouser Colour for this area
Made me laugh
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Best is to write a letter of support for the Lanark Rd scheme directly to the Spaces for People team at:
spacesforpeople@edinburgh.gov.uk
Because there is sure to be opposition to this...
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I have emailed them using @neddie’s link
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Transport Committee paper on East Craigs:
The main changes are:
4.9.1 Removing the Craigmount Avenue and Craigs Loan modal filters;4.9.2 Changing the position of the Craigs Gardens modal filter;
4.9.3 Changing the North Gyle Terrace filter to No Entry east bound (from Maybury Road); and
4.9.4 Altering the Craigs Road bus gate so that it always permits one-way westbound traffic and restricts eastbound traffic at peak times (07:30 – 09:30 and 16:00-18:30).Posted 3 years ago # -
Floating bus stops on the steep downhill bits. Mibbes not everything has to be floating?
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All filters now permeable by “waste vehicles”. I’m sure that won’t get abused. No, not at all
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I don't see quite why the North Gyle Terrace closure is only from Maybury Road. Hasn't this point been closed for a while because of roadworks anyway? It's QR9 too.
@neddie *Perhaps* it'll be collapsible bollards rather than just a massive gap?
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Took the Comiston Road to Braid Hills Road turn last night in my automobile just as a cyclist lady crossed it heading uphill.
She lost protection just where she needed it. I saw her and waited while she powered up the hill, but others may not.
This is the weak point of these paint and wand installations.
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The new, nearly finished segregated lanes at Jock's Lodge/Piershill on London Road are no longer blocked with building materials, construction barriers and wheelie bins. Instead they are blocked at each end by huge bloody traffic signs, weighted with sandbags. The signs inform drivers that the road is narrower and they need to switch lanes.....it's so obviously a deliberate troll of cyclists by whoever laid out the signs (contractor or council roads dept.).
I was so incensed at finding my way barred by these massive signs that I stopped and hefted one out of the way so I could actually use the cycle lane rather than mixing with heavy traffic on the narrow bit of road. I recommend similar direct action by any cyclist that finds these things in their way: you'll not squeeze past them as they literally block the entire entrance and exit to the segregated lane on both sides.
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@IWRATS: I noticed a white van parked in the northbound cycle lane just north of Caiystane Crescent the other day. I couldn't work out how he'd achieved it until I passed back the other way and had a closer look:
There's a wand base without a wand at the point marked "A", and what looks like the ghost of a wand base at the point marked "B" (right next to a mark on the boundary line of the cycle lane which looks like it was left by a spinning motor vehicle tyre, but I'm sure there's a much more innocent explanation). That's left a nice little gap beyond the dropped kerb* for anyone who DGAF to park illegally in the mandatory cycle lane. (Why there aren't double yellow lines there, like there are just a few yards down the road, is a bit of a mystery. Is there someone I can point this out to?)
I would suggest that this is another weakness of the paint and wand system: the wands are just too easy to remove accidentally/on purpose, and too many people are only too happy to ignore the paint in the absence of wands.
Does CEC send its own man in a van round to replace displaced wands every so often, or is it something that concerned citizens will end up having to do for themselves? (See also: weeding pavements and gutters.)
* Of course white van man wouldn't want to obstruct the passage of any motor vehicles, would he?
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A councillor told me that they have a team going round the various sites every day replacing wands etc. Whether they get to every site every day, I don't know.
I can pass on the email address of the officer in the active travel team overseeing this project, if that's helpful for the double yellow lines query?
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@frenchy: That would be helpful, thank you. It seems an odd omission so I'd like to flag it as a possible issue. Or if they have a good reason for it, I'd like to hear that too.
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@ejstubbs
I have amassed a pile of 30 discarded and lost wands. I have a Plan.
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All filters now permeable by “waste vehicles”. I’m sure that won’t get abused. No, not at all
Exhibit A:
https://goo.gl/maps/ingke13vFwS7ZVin7
Exhibit B:
https://goo.gl/maps/5cEWxDooWmDJcRUP9
The non-rising rising bollards are not worth the holes they're installed in.
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There's been a reasonable amount of work happening on Morningside Road. They've painted some cycle paths on the northern sections uphill (you can see one in the background of the photo below), some of which run beside spaces for pedestrians. They've also start putting in concrete for the pedestrian spaces, not sure if they'll add those to the bike spaces too. Definitely sturdier than the old wands!
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@iwrats: I have a Plan
Does it involve military-grade superglue?
Let me know if you need a helping hand. AFAICS it's fairly straightforward to remove and re-install the wands: they seem to use a pretty simple push-and-twist locating mechanism.
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@ejstubbs - Have DMed.
Can also confirm that wands are straightforward to reinsert - shove and twist.
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@pringlis - Walked down that way yesterday and it was different from the weekend so very much a work in progress.
I'd like to see more "stick people" and "bikes" marked in the lanes to re-inforce their intended use. Yesterday I came across a cyclist coming up on the pedestrian space - the usual give away that it is not for cyclists is the angled "Orca" Kerb" at the start of the space but in fairness there are situations where a cyclist may join from a side road and it's not immediately apparent who the space is for.... Related to that I hope the Orcas are visible enough (e.g. if pole removed as has happened elsewhere) not sure how noticable grey orca on grey road protecting a pedestrian space will be at night?
The space in the background is "interesting" as it's for cycling now, but was previously for pedestrians (although not that useful as so narrow). I ended up walking down part of it to clear pedestrians coming the other way - not a problem as no cyclists coming up it at the time (nor down it as I've seen folk going the "wrong way") however I did have a vehicle veer towards me as if to make some kind of point - just a shame they were crossing the mandatory line to do so. Worrying the mentality of people in charge of a tonne or so of metal nor that they don't know they should not be crossing the solid white line......
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All filters now permeable by “waste vehicles”. I’m sure that won’t get abused. No, not at all
@neddie - I can't see this in the committee paper linked above. Where did you see it?
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@pringlis: Some of those concrete items have been installed in Bruntsfield as well. (The truck being used by the chaps doing the work was carrying a good load of orange and white wands, presumably ones that had been replaced by the concrete blocks & poles).
@twinspark: From the very brief view I had of them, it looked to me as if the reflective black & white pole is rather more securely mounted in the concrete block than the wands in the road-level sockets. I get the impression that the wands are a quick & dirty way to get a cycle lane in place, with the concrete & poles being the longer-term solution.
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Despite looking like concrete, the cycle lane defenders are made from recycled tyres - which I think is a nice touch.
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Thinking about LTNs, perhaps we're going about it the wrong way with pretty planters made of recycled hipster coffee tables. We should use cars that have been crushed into cubes. Maybe a wee sign, "This driver thought they could get away with it."
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@Arellcat
I have long favoured cubification as the only meaningful consequence for road traffic violations. It is the best idea.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Protected cycle lanes going in on Lothian Road - wasn’t aware this was on the cards?
https://twitter.com/justacwab/status/1311285913964736512?s=21
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Just as part of the Tollcross high street measures before anyone gets their hopes up for more (at least in the very short term)!
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Ah yes, the Earl Grey Motorway. How will the cars cope??
This was planned to be the gateway to the road on stilts through The Meadows.
If only Edinburgh Corporation had got on with things like Glasgow did...
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Not sure if £110 is an investment or not!
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Apparently some people think the closure of Links Gardens needs to end. Some other people and Chas Booth think it should stay. Rival petitions have been created, shared on Facebook etc. The main gripe of the gripers appears to be the solid traffic between Restalrig Road and Duke St, abetted by the two lines of parked cars which mean buses can't get past each other. Non-gripers point out that with Constitution St closed, Links Gardens is less useful as a rat run than it used to be. The nearest alternative routes west from Restalrig Road involves the single-car-width, Ryehill, Cornhill and East Restalrig Terraces, whose constrictions are also caused by double lines of parked vehicles. Restalrig Road is also very slow to navigate when there is more than one bus going along the bottom bit, again due to parked cars each side. If I thought they wouldn't take it seriously I'd suggest moving all the unused cars onto Links Gardens then blocking it back up.
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