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Scottish Govmt announces £10m for pop up cycle/walking lanes

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  1. I were right about that saddle
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    Also in the past Morningside Road had a fish shop. It closed as it wasn’t really getting enough customers.

    I used to live round the corner from it and actually tried to help it survive. I told the nice guy that ran it that I didn't get home with my money before 18h00 and if he stayed open all the professionals would buy monkfish and prawns and tuna but he wouldn't have it.

    Opened at 08h00 as I left for work and closed before I got home. Was convinced he could get by on old ladies buying haddock. But he couldn't.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. gembo
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    Yer fishmonger dependent entirely on bourgeois monkfish eaters. Even Morningside wee old ladies can’t afford haddock.

    Fishmonger comes in a van from Eyemouth to Balerno on Thursday’s I think.

    Not paying Morningside rates,

    Port Seton has smoked fish specialist at west end and unsmoked at east end

    Tse’s in Marchmont is a violin shop now, but maybe it has moved?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. bill
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    @gembo

    Fishmonger comes in a van to East Calder on Thursdays as well. That's how I know it's Thursday.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. crowriver
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    "Not paying Morningside rates,"

    Here's another myth that needs stamping out.

    It's very unlikely any of the smaller shops are paying business rates. Only the largest premises will be, due to the 100% rebate scheme for small businesses mandated by the Scottish government.

    Rent, on the other hand, is a different matter. Unless you own the shop you'll be paying rent and fixed costs such as light, heat, water.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
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    No, the fish van definitely isn't paying Morningside rates.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    @IWRATS, agreed. However the point was, the old fishmonger's shop probably wasn't paying them either.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. Murun Buchstansangur
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  8. jonty
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    Someone matching that description has come round my way a couple of times - I've never bought from them and though the possibility it's some kind of scam has occurred to me I've generally just assumed it was somehow worthwhile to come from (I assumed from their accent) across the border and flog fish. Is it actually dodgy or has someone got the wrong end of the stick?

    (Or are there actually lots of door-to-door fishmongers with that accent and only one is giving them all a bad name?!)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. steveo
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    There is one that comes round near me, has done for years. Never spoken to them though given this is Edinburgh it's hard to know where someone lives just from their accent.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. AKen
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    but figures indicate huge falls in turnover and footfall for a lot of businesses

    I counted 12 empty units the last time I was in the Gyle. Lack of parking really hitting traders hard there.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. AKen
    Member

    ...but maybe things would be better for them if people could park their cars in the mall and save them the long walk from the car park.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
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    Police Scotland has sent out a message warning people of a ‘potential bogus trader’ who is currently operating in the Edinburgh area, selling fish for inflated prices.

    Pufferfish presumably?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. chdot
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    “selling fish for inflated prices”

    Well assuming the fish is fit for human consumption, the price is whatever people are prepared to pay (not least for the local delivery convenience).

    I KNOW the price I pay in the local shop is MUCH more than the shop pays at the wholesalers (or off the boat for all I know).

    Fish isn’t some sort of exotic drug where people become addicted!

    I know people who only buy frozen fish because they assume fresh will be more expensive.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. SRD
    Moderator

    Frozen fish is often better quality, if you're not buying it at the dock.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. SRD
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    (If anyone wants a referral for https://www.fishbox.co.uk just let me know. Freshest fish i have had in the UK by a very wide margin and very good value (if not cheap).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
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    I used to call Tse's fishmarket in Marchmont Tse's fleshmarket.

    Handful of coins change out of fifty quid sometimes. But oh Lord the quality.

    I used to fish a lot as a kid and once you've tasted fish that was alive an hour before.....

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. fimm
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    We get our fish from the fishmonger on Gorgie Road. Seems nice fish. There's the odd bit of dodgy parking from people who can't be bothered to walk goes on there, I'm afraid. (Yes I know not all disabilities are visible. No level of disability allows you to park on pedestrian crossing zig-zags.)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. SRD
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    @iwrats you really should try fishbox. better than any fishmonger i have tried in Edinburgh - and I have tried all the recommended ones.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
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    @SRD

    So noted. Thanks for the prompt.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. crowriver
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    I see M&S has made its first ever loss.

    Must be the lack of parking nearby.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. wingpig
    Member

    Fishbox would be a good username, band name, debut album title and yoga position.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
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    @crowriver

    They sold me nine pairs of scants which turned out not to have a spaver. It never even occurred to me to check. I mean what?

    That's a lifetime customer lost.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. ejstubbs
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    There's a chap comes down our street every Tuesday evening about 18:00-18:30 selling fish from a wee van. He's mostly harmless although I'm not keen on his method of announcing his arrival which consists of repeatedly and insistently honking his horn.

    We've only bought from him once. He didn't have a lot of choice and we found what we did buy to be a little underwhelming, given what we'd paid for it. I mean, it was fine, but the price seemed a tad steep.

    Back on topic(ish): the southbound bus stop just north of the Shell garage on Comiston Road has now been closed, removing the possibility of conflict between bus passengers and cyclists. Given that there's another stop about 100m further up the road it's not really a major hardship for public transport users.

    Also, the plastic barriers at the Braid Road mini roundabout have been put back in to a tidy and sensible configuration, with space for cyclists to pass on each side. I did meet a driver who seemed to be unable to deal with the fact that the junction is still a mini roundabout, and got very confused when I gave way to him. (At the other end of Braidburn Terrace the other day I saw a car waiting to turn left up Comiston Road. It wasn't clear how they got there: whether they'd ignored/failed to notice the prohibition on motor vehicles heading eastbound, or got themselves in a fankle/lost and had been trying to turn round in the throat of the junction. Either way, poor effort.)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. CycleAlex
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    New SfP report to T&E: https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s28763/7.6%20-%20Spaces%20for%20People%20Update%20_Final.pdf

    Some noteworthy things as I skim through:
    Warriston Road closure and Great Junction Street measures recommended for removal.

    A significant scheme on South Bridge:
    4.7.1 To facilitate safe physical distancing, safer conditions for both pedestrians and cyclists, to improve the local town centre environment and to support economic recovery, it is proposed to introduce measures on and around South Bridge. These measures include a bus gate at the Chambers Street junction (northbound), footpath widening and segregated cycleways as shown in Appendix 2A. This scheme will also support the traffic management necessary for the repairs to North Bridge, enabling these to be completed more quickly and economically. It will also include a revised road layout for Chambers Street (loading areas) and introduce a temporary signalised junction at Chambers Street and George IV Bridge. This proposal also has a link into the infrastructure works on North Bridge as outlined in the Appendix;

    Greenbank to Meadows scheme with retained full closure on Braid Road recommended for approval.

    Schemes recommended to be 'progressed' (designed?):
    4.36.1 Pavement widening and uphill cycle lane on Broughton Street;
    4.36.2 Pedestrian crossing improvements on Broughton Street roundabout;
    4.36.3 Pavement widening and uphill cycle lane on Restalrig Road South (Smoky
    Brae);
    4.36.4 Pavement widening with give and go traffic management on Starbank Road;
    4.36.5 Installation of a pedestrian/cyclist crossing point on Fillyside Road;
    4.36.6 Pavement widening on Fillyside Road;
    4.36.7 Footpath widening at the West End of Princes Street;
    4.36.8 Cycle segregation from the City of Edinburgh boundary into Portobello; and
    4.36.9 Improved signage and minor interventions to reduce speed of cyclists on
    Portobello Promenade.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. chdot
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  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Old Dalkeith Road now has intermittent orca/lane defenders southbound and paint northbound.

    If this is the final configuration you really are spoiling us monsieur l'ambassador.

    But it can't be. Lane defenders will be on the march next week. I am sure of this.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. Frenchy
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    That is indeed the "final" configuration, walkabout lane defenders notwithstanding.

    Lothian Buses asked for the bus lane back, so there's no northbound cycle lane protection from The Inch to Cameron Toll. There are also places where there was sufficient width to put in orange wands, but not sufficient width for lane defenders - these bits are now unprotected too.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Frenchy

    Do you have any petrol to hand? I have a range of turbo-flame lighters. Let's just burn the whole thing to the ground.

    Visionary champion my anus.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. Morningsider
    Member

    Hmmm - Rosehill, the company that make the cycle lane defenders, also make a narrow version that is actually narrower than a wand base.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. chdot
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