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Tomorrow the lovely Braidburn Terrace that links the Hermitage with Braidburn Valley Park will be one way making sure #edinburgh locals can walk, run,scoot and cycle and safely social distance! @morningsidecc @SMorningsidePS @MidmarPaddock
https://twitter.com/melaniemain/status/1258434770280873985?s=21
“Would this be the same Tories who were objecting to closing the car parks in Holyrood Park because people needed to be able to drive to open spaces to exercise?“
Most likely.
Clearly some people shouldn’t be locked down with nothing to do and an internet connection.
There used to be a phrase for it -
‘should get out more’...
The good news is that parking is being made easier.
This brings forward, in the current #lockdown, measures that local councillors have consulted on with residents over many years (and many public meetings). It isn't without issue, but also helps ensure residents can better access and park their vehicles outside their homes.
https://twitter.com/cllrnickcook/status/1258447998801117186?s=21
If it is a temporary version of the full Braidburn Terrace scheme, then the pavements remain woefully inadequate for social distancing. Possibly some of the narrowest pavements in Edinburgh, probably a useable width of about 50-60cm on the north side.
LEZs being paused. Seems daft. Why not push through on what lockdown has achieved? Weird.
@gembo, "Weird."
Indeed, but if one views through SMP lens it sorta works:
- Scotland's Oil
- Hard pressed (Scottish) family motorists
- "Economic growth" i.e. back to BAU ASAP
- Holyrood elections next year opportunity to get SMP majority and break free of Green parliamentary choke hold
Alternatively, just look at Transport Scotland's list of projects and you can see encouraging car use is literally built in to Scottish government policy.
Agreed but all the canyons of Smog in Corstorphine and central glasgow all now at decent levels of emission. And same people pushing the wider pavements. Just seems like one is the opposite of the other?
"And same people pushing the wider pavements. "
Same people? Councillors involved in that, rather than Scottish ministers?
Scottish ministers to be fair diverted some active travel cash to temporary bike lanes, etc. Which will last 18 months max then back to BAU?
Scottish ministers also believe "electric cars are the answer", but what is the question?
whatever that question is, it does not fit the case
for the fire that depended on fuel ... when that fuel has all gone, and it can get no other, being thus without nutriment, it is said to be extinct
Popped up to Braidburn Terrace, as part of the family exercise. The temporary one-way scheme was in place. The pavements have not been widened, no cycle lanes created or parking spaces removed.
From the couple of minutes I was there, it looks like there may be a serious unintended consequence. On a street where traffic generally crawled along due to the lack of road space, traffic looked to be moving far more quickly - as drivers don't have to worry about anything coming the other way (even though it is 2-way for cyclists). Anecdote not data - obviously.
I want to be positive. I strongly support space for distancing - but this isn't it.
Did you know? The Transport (Scotland) Bill that provides for LEZs also provides for legally parking/loading on the footway for up to 20 minutes a "ban" on footway parking. Due to come into force in 2021. Are these provisions also "impractical at this time" and thus kicked into the long grass? If only someone would ask the relevant minister.
I didn't get a response from Cllr Whyte on how he & his colleagues will support the "Golden Age of Cycling" that his party leader wants to see.
So I've tweeted again and tagged in his colleagues to see who'll bite...
I am genuinely interested to know.
https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1258754991243870213?s=19
There are some major measures here: https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s24012/Item%206.8%20-%20Creating%20Safe%20Spaces%20for%20Walking%20and%20Cycling.pdf
A handful of projects propsed:
Installation of bus gates on Dundee St at Fountainbridge and
closure of Viewforth. Some temporary cycle segregation on Dundee Street.
West Harbour Rd Temporary cycle segregation
Bank Street Installation of a Bus Gate
West Coates from Wester Coates Road to Magdala Crescent Temporary cycle segregation
Gilmerton Road Low cost cycle segregation
North Bridge or alternative location on Installation of a Bus Gate
Crewe Road South Temporary cycle segregation
Market Street Installation of a Bus Gate
East Princes Street Installation of a Bus Gate
Waverley Bridge Closure Road Closure/ bus gate
Canongate Installation of a Bus Gate or other restrictions
Minto St/Bridges Corridor Temporary footway widening
George IV bridge Temporary footway widening and cycle segregation
Old Dalkeith Road Temporary cycle segregation
Morrison Street (western/Haymarket section) Temporary footway widening with parking and loading restrictions
Liberton Road, Craigmillar Park
and Minto Street (i.e. between
Lasswade Road to Salisbury Road)
Introducing a 24-hour bus lane with parking
and loading restrictions
Other main roads:
e.g.: Milton Rd (sections without
bus lanes) Seafield Rd,
Portobello Rd, Telford Rd,
Temporary cycle segregation
Neighbourhoods across the city. Examples of live projects include East Craigs and Leith Liveable neighbourhood.
Road closures etc to reduce through traffic
Citywide Reduce pedestrian waiting times
Citywide Introduce automatic green-man phase at selected traffic lights
A number of examples across the city, likely including: Morningside Road, Easter Road, Gorgie/Dalry, Temporary footway widening or creating more space for businesses
Citywide, streets where other initiatives to reallocate space are taking place Remove pedestrian guardrails
There are indeed. Bus gates on both North Bridge and Bank St would be significant.
Some options in there are also disappointingly half-hearted - Braid Hills Drive, for example: "Increase available space for walking and cycling with the potential to reduce the speed limit to improve road safety." Just close it near Liberton Tower and Braid Farm Road.
Given the timeframe this has been pulled together in and the breadth of measures to be implemented in the next 3-7 weeks, mot to mention the challenges of all WFH, I'd say this is pretty good.
If this set work then there is more scope for them to do more. I'd treat this as the start and not the end and therefore worthy of our support.
Sounds impressive.
Concerned that bus gates unlikely to be funded by this money as neither ‘cheap’ nor (presumably) temporary(?)
Does anyone know whether police/parking attendants can enforce bus gates or purely ANPR? If not, does CEC have portable ANPR units?
I'd be worried about compliance levels in places like North Bridge if there's no enforcement measures.
“enforce bus gates”
Ah
I assumed in such places they would need actual bus operated barriers...
This is it, folks. This is the moment. Get behind it with everything you've got and push for more. This is the start of something big.
Re bus gates, CCT (Meadows to George St, specifically) talked of ANPR enforcement and I imagine this is what is being talked about here.
No mention of A8/Corstorphine Road.
Morrison Street- ah, long overdue.
“talked of ANPR enforcement“
That makes sense.
Presume not cheap?
No mention of A8/Corstorphine Road.
Front and centre of demands from Corstorphine Community Council. Supported by Frank Ross publicly.
Cammo Walk now opened up to, err, walking & cycling. :-)
https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1258840817998991361?s=19
First photo in link - ‘national speed limit’ sign.
Assuming it will be reopened(?), ETRO for 20mph ASAP??
I'm hoping it doesn't reopen. When the houses are built it wi be shut, I think.
Tomorrow’s Times says that there will be £250m for new cycle lanes (presumably England & Wales)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52592421
It is believed that Mr Shapps will talk about using the unique "opportunity" of the lockdown restrictions to change the way we get to work.The solution, Grant Shapps is expected to say, is for us all to walk and cycle more.
The BBC understands that the proposal to increase what the government is calling "active travel" will be presented as an opportunity for us all to live "cleaner, greener, healthier lives".
Mr Shapps is likely to announce extra funding for local authorities to pay for alterations to the road network to facilitate this move to more active ways to get around.
He is also expected to announce plans to give local authorities new powers to change the road network and designate extra space for cyclists and pedestrians.
I find it rather amusing that several councillors who had a melt down at three minor roads being closed haven't uttered a word about today's fairly major proposals.
Caught on to the fact Boris wants to do the same in England? Hatching an evil plan?
Whilst the Edinburgh offer was less impressive that those in Stirling & Glasgow, the value of a city bike hire scheme as a transport resilience measure has been shown around the UK - several of the operators rapidly secured agreement from their partners/sponsors and local servicing agents.
Glasgow provides an interesting scheme to study. Free membership is available to job seekers, and to 'groups' such as members of Glasgow University, where bikes can replace car use for inter-site travel. There are also discounted memberships for those with 'transport poverty' a 95% discount on regular membership and also for car club members
Glasgow is chasing Cardiff as the busiest cycle hire scheme in the UK with high rates of hires per bike per day, although not quite at the level where levels of service can suffer (over 8 hires/bike & it gets challenging)
Remember here though that Grant Shapps announcements are relatively unimportant, and we've already had this deal (£10m for 5.5m vs £250m for 55m - basically 4 times the level of funding offered for England, from Michael Matheson, and the ability to deliver our own Scottish legislation for roads (after all we have lower limits for drink driving & HGV speeds on single carriageway roads)
We need to move swiftly to narrow down lanes though as with 20mph you need less space around a moving vehicle (DKE) and the current widths of 4 metres (and wider?) invite high speeds
https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/49877302041/in/dateposted/
Junctions can also be trimmed
https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/49877306046/in/photostream/
& trip chaining rediscovered
https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/49877602892/in/photostream/
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