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  • Started 4 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from Murun Buchstansangur

  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The plastic skittles that might protect the doctors and nurses on their way to work in the hospital up the road from me gather behind the wall of the adjacent park.

    There is no safe route from where I live even to the nearest school or the centre of town.

    Meanwhile the Scottish Government is considering ploughing a whole new car-track over mountains and across seas;

    https://www.transport.gov.scot/publication/project-corridor-options-access-to-argyll-and-bute-a83/

    This will not be controversial, this will be much needed and a boost to the economy. Pointless resisting.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  2. crowriver
    Member

    Transport Scotland roads projects are like a huge supertanker, ploughing ahead at a rate of knots. Huge size, costs, massive crew and support team, automated systems. Near impossible for any mere mortal to stop the forward momentum of this massive hulking beast. It carries on, casting a blight everywhere for as long as there is fuel and money to sustain its progress.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @crowriver

    I have responded, suggesting that Sustrans should handle delivery.

    That way we'll get a muddy hill track with a car parked on it most of the time and a flight of stairs and a strange gap.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  4. Morningsider
    Member

    The options for the A83 Rest and be Thankful were all studied in 2013. Even Jacobs couldn't get the numbers to add up. Every option was found to cost far more than the benefits it would bring. It is better value simply to clear up after each landslide than do anything about it - reforesting the slopes was also thought to be a good idea, but despite that being seven years ago not much seems to have been done on that front.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Morningsider

    You may be unaware, but I had to spend the night in Dunoon. How do you put a price on that?

    It will be interesting when the Britain Bonus becomes available and the Conservatives dare the Scottish Government to build a bridge across the firth of Clyde.

    The figures might look better with an onward bridge to Northern Ireland?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  6. gembo
    Member

    The Clyde does not need a bridge it has a tunnel

    Posted 4 years ago #

  7. crowriver
    Member

    @IWRATS, I'm liking the new impish satirical you. It's a momentary respite from staring into the abyss of despair...

    Posted 4 years ago #

  8. crowriver
    Member

    @Morningsider, "reforesting the slopes was also thought to be a good idea".

    I'm sure. Rather as setting carbon reduction targets were similarly thought. Doing something to achieve them, however - ach well never mind there's always another bottle of malt in the drinks cabinet, eh? Trebles all round!

    Posted 4 years ago #

  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    But the tunnel leads to a dead end at Arrochar?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  10. Morningsider
    Member

    @IWRATS - by the appliance of science*

    *okay, ropey economics - but that doesn't rhyme.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The whole 'trees' thing was covered by environmental extremists in 2013;

    http://www.andywightman.com/archives/date/2013/10

    Posted 4 years ago #

  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    In general, the true situation is highly complex compared with the above.

    Evergreen, deadpan.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  13. Arellcat
    Moderator

    okay, ropey economics - but that doesn't rhyme.

    But the portmanteau, ropeynomics, sounds pretty good.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  14. steveo
    Member

    ropeynomics

    hasn't that been govt policy for years now.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  15. gembo
    Member

    @steveo no they use the sister theory of dodgeynomics

    Posted 4 years ago #

  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I'm not sure that there's a word for an exponentially-accelerating system of making things and throwing them away.

    Maniac death spiral? Conventional economics?

    Posted 4 years ago #

  17. gembo
    Member

    Will be disasternomics? Coronanomics, etceteranomics

    Posted 4 years ago #

  18. crowriver
    Member

    @IWRATS, it's called Late Capitalism.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    “

    ONE of Scotland' most iconic roads is to be out of action until mid-November as workers try to make it safe after two landslips at the weekend, it has been revealed.

    “

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18846695.key-scottish-road-shut-nearly-two-weeks-landslides/

    Posted 4 years ago #

  20. paulmilne
    Member

    I'm not sure that there's a word for an exponentially-accelerating system of making things and throwing them away.

    @iwrats Sorry I'm late to the party, but the answer is yes, there is a word for it - well, two words.

    It's called "planned obsolescence". I learned about it during activist days in the 70's. Not much has changed.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  21. chdot
    Admin

    This seems to be the right thread -

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23018827.rest-thankful-a83-not-safe-enough-re-open-rain/

    Check photo for new forest…

    Posted 2 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    “

    A diversion route for the landslide-prone Rest and Be Thankful pass in Argyll is to be widened as a £30 million stop gap until a bypass of the notorious stretch of the A83 is built, transport minister Jenny Gilruth has announced.

    “

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ps30m-diversion-route-upgrade-for-landslip-plagued-a83-rest-and-be-thankful-pass-to-improve-resilience-3965601

    Posted 1 year ago #

  23. neddie
    Member

    Will this ruin a nice cycling route?

    Posted 1 year ago #

  24. chdot
    Admin

    “

    The landslips on the A83 in Glen Kinglas and 20 years of government failure – why?

    “

    https://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2023/10/20/the-landslips-on-the-a83-in-glen-kinglas-and-20-years-of-government-failure-why/

    Posted 1 year ago #

  25. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    A83 proposals published

    Mentions of cars - 22

    Mentions of cycling - 0

    https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/mbdhtls0/brochure-preferred-route-exhibition-march-2024-a83-access-to-argyll-and-bute.pdf

    Posted 8 months ago #

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