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We need a Scottish Parliament election thread
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In Lossiemouth.
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They'll have to change planning law in Scotland to do this won't they? Otherwise Scot Gov runs these funds through planning consent for whatever horror the Tories want to bulldoze.
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Okay, Stranraer then. UK Gov can claim it as "essential Bexsh1t border infrastructure".
Whatever happens, it has to be in a Tory Westminster constituency. At all costs!
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I think this is a prelude to direct rule.
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Maybe not right away, but wait until the first Scottish "Freeport" is declared. Dundee maybe?
Then we'll see the governance of that "Freeport" taken away from Holyrood - they'll enact direct rule piecemeal, incrementally rather than in one fell swoop.
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Who is the actor who cannot be named who made up the foursome or did not make up the foursome? (Golfing reference)
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Obviously I'm not a golfer.
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We are the pros from Dover.
Name that movie without googling and I will buy you a virtual pint?
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“Who is the actor who cannot be named“
I’m more interested why they can’t be named!
Of course anyone who knows who it is MUSTN’T say here.
(Likewise names of any unnamed people in any court cases.)
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Name that movie without googling and I will buy you a virtual pint?
Oddball and Monica from friends' dad upsetting a nurse in Japan during the Korean war if I remember correctly.
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@chdot
Worry not. Anyone who wants to know those names already knows them.
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@steveo - Trapper John,? I have put the virtual pint behind the virtual bar for you to drink virtually and virtuously
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Yeah trapper was Monica and Ross' dad in Friends.
I only ever drink virtuously, water of life!
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“behind the virtual bar for you to drink virtually“
I think that makes your offer virtually worthless.
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@steveo - Trapper John,? I have put the virtual pint behind the virtual bar for you to drink virtually and virtuously
Sorry, I am going to have to overrule you there. The question was what was the movie.I answer M*A*S*H* and claim my virtual pint.
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Ooft, harsh babe
/whistles and walks off for a martiniPosted 3 years ago # -
One thing that's nice about Scotland is to see parties in Holyrood working together.
But there are limits!Yet to be elected in Holyrood Scottish Tory leader @Douglas4Moray tweeting in search of an alliance. Will he contact Michelle Balantyne and George Galloway next as no-one in Labour seems to be interested?
If it means stopping the SNP and their push for indyref2, I would be part of a unionist coalition.
The last Scottish Labour leader wouldn’t work with us.
Will you @AnasSarwar @MonicaLennon7?
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@paulmilne, he describes characters in the film even giving their later incarnations and names a war it is allegedly about tho in fact about a different later war, he deserves that virtual Martini but you can have a whisky and a whisky. Chaser . If you like virtually.
Go 4077 Sqdn
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Ms Sturgeon and her close associates are going to come under a great deal of pressure now.
If she insists on going into the May election on a conventional platform many in her party will find it hard not to conclude that she is possibly not as opposed to the 1707 Acts and Treaty as might be supposed.
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Douglas Ross effectively wants this referendum in next election.
His idea is that the election should be a Labour/Tory Unionist alliance versus an SNP/ScotGreen alliance.Scotland's 'normal' place is to have an 'underperforming' economy and CV-19 will help. Changing the way we are governed should help improve that as throughout my lifetime I've been told that no matter what I or my family or friends do it's not enough economically. So depressing. Social media is full of Brexiteer/Unionists using the GERS deficit figure to point out that they live in a country (Scotland) dependent on handouts from our rich southern neighbour.
With Bxt they've just screwed up businesses here with European connections so increasing costs for north end of island that is already disadvantaged. That's why they should have compromised to give our underperforming economy a boost (imagine!)
The more they say we are dependent then the less keen that neighbour will be to give us our own money back - England has enough problems of it's own etc. (Currency GBP value is not brought down by having Scotland in the UK though? Also GERS is very blunt measurement with many external costs loaded onto Scotland's tab.)Posted 3 years ago # -
“dependent on handouts from our rich southern neighbour”
That’s fine (not same as true).
So
A ‘referendum’ for people living in England.
Q1 ‘Should Scotland be an independent country?’
Typical A - ‘Yes, think of the money we’ll save’.
Q2 ‘Should England be an independent country?’
Typical A - ‘It has been since the first of January.’
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The subsidy theory is one that's worth teasing out. I can never get answers to the following;
1) Have the English people consented to this arrangement, if so how, if not how are they to be given this choice?
2) What is required in return for this subsidy?
3) What guarantee is there that the subsidy will continue?
4) In light of your answer to 2) above why would the subsidy end if Scotland became independent?I find people oddly incurious about these questions.
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Good points @chdot / @iwrats
George Osborne writes his opinion in the Standard about how BJ should tackle the 'Scottish problem'. (from National)
Osborne, who was in government during the 2014 indyref, says the solution to keeping the Union together is “simple” despite the complex factors at play: “Just say no, Boris.”
“By unleashing English nationalism, Brexit has made the future of the UK the central political issue of the coming decade,” he writes.
He says by remaining in the EU single market, Northern Ireland “for all economic intents and purposes [is] now slowly becoming part of a united Ireland”.
Scotland, he argues, is an “altogether different matter”.
“Its contribution to the world through its literature and philosophy, exploration and art, is our contribution,” Osborne says. “Its departure — with no disrespect to the Welsh — would represent the end of the United Kingdom.”
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“Its contribution to the world through its literature and philosophy, exploration and art, is our contribution,” Osborne says. “Its departure — with no disrespect to the Welsh — would represent the end of the United Kingdom.”
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Is he really saying ‘lots of good stuff comes out of Scotland, but because it was/is done within Britain(?) it’s’ours’ ‘??
So abandoning NI and disrespecting Wales he’s saying ‘Scotland belongs to England and always will??
Quite bizarre really.
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England has “catch’d Scotland and we will bind her fast”.
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I don't think it's bizarre. They know that without Scotland the notion of 'Britishness' collapses and the Tudor farce on the Thames is exposed as nothing more than a very bad way to govern England rather than some carved oak multi-national tradition from days of yore.
Scotland is vital to the grotesque governance of England by its own worst citizens.
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She's going to get away with it, isn't she?
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