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  1. chdot
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    EMPLOYEES in a Cabinet Office team working on strengthening the union do not need to have knowledge of Scotland to work there, it has emerged.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19077500.goves-union-unit-seeks-new-staff-knowledge-scotland-not-essential/

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. Murun Buchstansangur
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    @crowriver If you have Netflix, watch 'Occupied' for some entertaining Russo-Norwegian futuring

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. LaidBack
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    @MB - yes Occupied is quite gripping. Got the DVD from Fopp (so we can lend out to friends). Only watched series 1.

    Back on flags and how all sides like to use images that resonate.

    The man with the hat aka George Galloway is back and getting noticed. So shouldn't post but will as makes me think of all these people that watch endless programmes about the 'dambusters'.

    'Alliance For Unity's use of RAF logo being looked at by Ministry of Defence'

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/19077066.ministry-defence-lawyers-investigating-alliance-unitys-use-raf-logo/

    But of course we are all wrong! The roundel is completely different from the RAF logo and approved by the Electoral Comission.

    GG says:

    It isn’t the RAF logo, the dimensions are completely different. It has been approved by the Electoral Commission. But you never have let the facts stand in the way of your fairy tales. But thanks for the publicity #StreisandEffect @Alliance4Unity

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. crowriver
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    @Murun Buchstansangur, haven't seen it, don't have Notflax, but from reading a plot synopsis it all sounds like the series is reliving some kind of national trauma left over from the German occupation during WW2.

    Has to said it's completely understandable if Norwegians are paranoid about Russia and the EU. Why they think the US has their best interests at heart though is anyone's guess.

    Did anyone see that series on BBC4 about the beginning of Norway's oil boom back in the 1960/70s? Quite well done I thought.

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  5. crowriver
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    The roundel painted on aircraft is not the RAF's logo. The RAF is not a corporation (yet) it doesn't have a logo as such. There are symbols that are used by the RAF - the crest insignia (complete with wings) and the roundel, but they are not logos.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. chdot
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    “but they are not logos“

    Really?

    Doesn’t roundel fit this?

    is a graphic mark, emblem, or symbol used to aid and promote public identification and recognition. It may be of an abstract or figurative design

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo

    May well be true it’s not ‘owned’/trademarked by RAF.

    ADDED

    Obviously not the same design, but -

    The Roundel

    The London Underground logo is one of the most recognised and imitated logos in the world

    https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tfl/culture-and-heritage/art-and-design/the-roundel

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
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    Poll tax architect Andrew Dunlop has now weighed in on Scotland's future. He at least is open about the priority, which is to contain English nationalism within his preferred 'British' governance framework;

    “establishing a separate English executive or parliament, far from securing the Union, risks irrevocably destabilising it”

    This is Scotland's main function for people like him, an exotic ornament that justifies the whole Tudor charade that passes for a parliament in London.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. chdot
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    Not just relevant to this thread.

    Neil, who was born in Glasgow and lives in Edinburgh, takes charge of The Scotsman with the brief to expand its coverage in politics and opinion, business, the environment and education, the arts and Scottish lifestyle, in particular health and sport.

    https://www.scotsman.com/business/jpi-media-appoints-neil-mcintosh-new-editor-scotsman-3129825

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_McIntosh_(journalist)

    Back in the '90s I got my first job on its sister title, the Edinburgh Evening News, and wrote about the internet for The Scotsman for several happy years. It'll be an honour to return as editor to lead the titles into an exciting future, under new ownership. 2/3

    https://mobile.twitter.com/nmcintosh/status/1359425288103428098

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. crowriver
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    @chdot, really.

    RAF roundels certainly aid recognition, but (until recently) did not help promote a brand. There have been a variety of different roundels in use over the years. The most famous one was adopted by the Mod subculture (especially by The Who) in the 1960s and thus did become a kind of logo...

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  10. jonty
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    Once again I am losing track of the Salmond Inquiry - one of the ways I am able to keep in touch is Andy Wightman's twitter feed. It currently appears to be a series of reasonable-sounding legal justifications for his actions followed by a screed of extremely intolerant replies - many of them objecting to him using the term "Salmond Inquiry" so perhaps I should be careful. Would Alex Salmond really have appeared if only he'd voted the other way? It feels like he's just trying to avoid it at all costs.

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  11. crowriver
    Member

    Addendum: The RAF obviously not the only Air Force to use roundels. I mean they're basically national flags turned into circular markings.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. Baldcyclist
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    Original purpose was to stop being shot at.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force_roundels

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. chdot
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    “and thus did become a kind of logo”

    Ok, so it’s a logo on a parka not a plane.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @jonty

    Those "reasonable-sounding legal justifications" are due to be tested in the High Court tomorrow by The Spectator, so it would have been sensible for the committee to postpone any decision until then. For now, the document in question is available on the The Spectator website for those interested and I personally struggle to see how it breaches any anonymity, with or without the redacted paragraph. So the question is whether those "reasonable-sounding legal justifications" are just convenient excuses.

    I'll be interested to see what crops up in Mr Wightman's post-politics career.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/spectator-magazine-set-crucial-legal-action-linked-alex-salmond-evidence-harassment-complaints-inquiry-3130178

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @jonty

    Mr Salmond has offered his help at considerable expense. The enquiry is into the behaviour of Ms Sturgeon, Ms Evans, Mr Murrell and [REDACTED] and their unlawful retrospective code of conduct of which Mr Salmond was a victim, costing all of us money when he received costs on the 'agent and client, client paying' basis. This was done because the Scottish Government failed to cooperate with the courts.

    You can read Mr Salmond's solicitors' letter to the committee here.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. Murun Buchstansangur
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    Also, given the deadlock, it was proposed that the issue was referred to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (which Andy Wightman remains a member of, until a Green is co-opted) for decision. Remarkably, he voted with the SNP members against doing that also.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. jonty
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    > I'll be interested to see what crops up in Mr Wightman's post-politics career.

    He's been bought off?! Didn't think he was the type.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Just interested. Mr Wightman seems fond of threatening litigation. Ironic given the title of his best-known book.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    My guess would be that Andy's experience with Wildcat Havens and their backers has made him wary of getting in legal trouble. He was facing bankruptcy so he'll be very cautious now.

    If you could buy him off somebody would have done that already.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. jonty
    Member

    > If you could buy him off somebody would have done that already.

    Yes, that was my thought too.

    So if this legal challenge is successful and Wightman goes with it it's Salmond fireworks next week?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. chdot
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    While this polling has been immediately interpreted as evidence that recent SNP in-fighting over referendum strategy, transgender rights and the ongoing Salmond inquiry has affected support for independence, it’s worth noting that support for the party at May’s Holyrood elections remains virtually unchanged since January.

    .”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/feb/11/uk-covid-news-updates-vaccine-variant-coronavirus?page=with:block-60251d418f0886db2aba65a0#block-60251d418f0886db2aba65a0

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
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    The Section 11 Order that had been interpreted as banning the naming of [REDACTED] under any circumstances has now been varied to ban their being identified as a complainant in the failed prosecution of Mr Salmond.

    Brilliantly, the previous redaction of [REDACTED]'s name now means that when their name is published in connection with other activities it will be obvious that they were a complainant in the failed prosecution. So the ruling that they can be named may well have the effect of them not being able to be named.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Schrödinger's redaction

    I am thinking Lady Dorrian adding the words “as such complainers in those proceedings” to her order reduces the available camouflage well beyond today's test issue

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. chdot
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  25. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Quelle surprise

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Committee's decision, not her's.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I’m aware. But Salmond pencilled in for 2 weeks hence, election on 6th May, dissolution 6 weeks prior. I’m betting her appearance never happens. If polls hold up, new mandate and majority. Nothing to see here, peons.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    It is a dirty game.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Certainly a test of the parliament's mettle. If it tolerates being lied to then it will be diminished and so will we.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Mandy Rhodes in good form. One of those moments when the old order refuses to die and the new one refuses to be born.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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