Always dangerous mentioning Wings and SNP in the same sentence.
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How many wings does the SNP have
I am aware of Left, Right, Green, Growthist, New Unnamed Religion and opponents of New Unnamed Religion.
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6 wings then.
Can it fly.
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6 wings then.
There are combos of the six and probably more wings unknown to me? There has also always been an anti-independence wing in the SNP, oddly.
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Outside of social media there is a whole world of misinformation. The example below is from Radio Scotland. Is shared on Twitter by MSM monitor. At local newsagents I note piles of pro Union papers with National and New European hidden face down. Viewforth stores had two piles of unsold Daily Telegraphs. Who is ordering these - the Union Unit?
@msm_monitor commenting on the BBC 'Shereen Show'.
This is quite unbelievable. This journalist is effectively accusing the health professionals, who are advising the Scottish Govt, of colluding with Nicola Sturgeon's administration in order to artificially prolong pandemic restrictions in order to influence an election.
"The person speaking is former BBC producer Jane Graham. This kind of dangerous nonsense has no place on a publicly funded broadcaster. What if people start to believe this?"
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@IWRATS, Kevin McKenna on blisteringly good form there.
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@iwrats - I know this is just a theory you're putting out but that almost concurs with the post I made above about the pandemic lockdown allegedly being prolonged for electoral advantage (comment by ex BBC employee on BBC Scotland today)
1) There is a tacit agreement between British and Scottish nationalist parties that a minority SNP government suits both.So...when NS goes I take it that her successor is in with this 'tacit agreement'?
It doesn't strike me that such an agreement could be hidden even if it was true. (Ok tacit = unwritten but even so!)I used to joke that BJ would phone up NS once a week and do an off record chat asking 'how are things up in Jockland, what do you think I should do next?', but that's based on a Greg Moodie cartoon idea.
In real life he takes advice from partner Carrie and that's maybe why Oliver 'Sonic' Lewis had to go from the Union Unit.Posted 3 years ago # -
@LaidBack
I hold that as a scientific theory. If an observation is made that is not compatible with the theory I will gladly abandon it.
Here are some such observations;
1) May election declared a single issue plebiscite on independence. No other manifesto.
2) Leader acts to unify members, staff and elected reps of her party.
3) Leader stops trying to stall and divert the two inquiries into her behaviour.
4) Leader recruits a CEO for her party that she is not married to.Posted 3 years ago # -
"SNP decrees that there should be no campaigning..."
(Opinion piece)
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They're breeding. Vic also thinks the SNP are obsessed by independence which is not consistent with observations and therefore false.
Red lube cheese and veggie lard.
ADMIN EDIT
This post references other posts that have been removed for neatness (see below).
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Anyone up early may have seen above above post triplicated.
I always assume this is a keyboard accident and delete them.
In this case there was also a witty response and repost.
Unfortunately leaving some/all would have looked odd thus breaking Rule 23 - “CCE should look neat and tidy”.
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CASCADE DELETE * FROM CCE.PROD WHERE USER_ID = 'gembo'!
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If only such automation was possible...
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Close confidantes facing the sack?
Imagine the bloodbath if the first minister tried to sack any of the people identified in that article without us funding eye-watering pay-offs. A whole silo of worms would burst open.
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I have referred this to Dept. S and they have asked Is Vic There?
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Very good!
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From link -
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The Sunday Times has been told that permanent secretary Leslie Evans will be heavily criticised in the report of the Holyrood committee investigating the Scottish government’s botched handling of complaints made against the former first minister.“
Well it would be a very suspect report if she wasn’t heavily criticised.
Resignations no longer seem fashionable. Westminster influence?
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If only such automation was possible...
Give me READ, WRITE, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE AND DROP access to the back end database and you will see the New Jerusalem.
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Haven’t seen the old Jerusalem yet.
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How will you know CCE is working now that you have deleted gembo's first post of the day?
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Last para from ST article -
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In his Sunday Times column today, Kevin Pringle, who is a former SNP communications director, says the forthcoming appearances by Salmond and Sturgeon “will escalate a crisis without precedent in the country’s politics. If the issue hasn’t cut through to the public’s consciousness before, it will now.”
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This is one of the odd things about all this - “the public” don’t seem bothered.
Political nerds (CCE and elsewhere) clearly are.
It’s not as though there’s been no media coverage.
There are suggestions that SP election turnout will be lower than normal, but presumably Covid means more (all?) postal ballots so easier to vote(?)
Maybe it’s ‘Salmond or Sturgeon, why do I have to choose?’
Maybe it’s ‘I want Indy so I’ll vote SNP whatever has/n’t been going on’
Maybe it’s ‘terrible as the SNP is, better than the others’.
Maybe it’s ‘I would never vote SNP, this just confirms my view/choice’.
People generally don’t read manifestos, won’t read ‘the report’ may or may not pay attention to media coverage/spin, then may or may not hold their noses and pencil a cross.
Whatever the importance of this to the people directly involved, I think most people/voters regard it with scepticism/disinterest and also largely as an irrelevant sideshow (even if it’s not).
If people have been grossly incompetent or lied to Parliament they should resign.
Any party expecting total loyalty (without a police state) will have problems eventually.
Bad behaviour is hardly an SNP exclusive.
The desire for power corrupts (not solely about politics).
‘Better’ politicians will increasingly be put off.
All just a distraction from ‘post Covid build better’, Climate Crisis, etc.
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“How will you know CCE is working now that you have deleted gembo's first post of the day?“
Good question.
I know he posted.
Lack of subsequent posts would show CCE is completely broken.
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The Times reporting plans for an actual assault on civic Scotland by the London regime.
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"The eye of Sauron fell on him..."
More court gossip, I see.
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We are now left to decide if the current Scottish Government has a) not the slightest idea what it is doing or b) entered into an incompetent conspiracy to jail a former first minister.
I am currently reading this book about the 1820 radical uprising and my eyes are on stalks at the parallels. Selective prosecution of publishers, spies everywhere, promotion of cronies, London's fingerprints all over the shop and a thirst for real democracy being strangled by sweaty fingers.
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Only the Crown Office's previous redactions of that submission allowed jigsaw identification so it would be pretty mad if that was given as a reason for the Crown Office to censor it.
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@iwrats, remember that book was previously a play. Jim Kerman was very into this.
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@gembo
Different book, man? Maybe the Peter Beresford one?
This book written by my pal came out in 2020. Previously just in his head.
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