@chdot- his pronunciation gets to close to the Spanish word “Alabar” - to praise or perhaps brag about oneself
Something Pythonesque about these nationalist factions seeming to hate each other more than they do the evil union
Parallels with what happened with Irish nationalism in the 1920’s?
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“his pronunciation gets to close to the Spanish word “Alabar” - to praise or perhaps brag about oneself“
Well yes, that could be how he was pronouncing it!
He also said Alba.
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How is it supposed to be pronounced? I say "Al" as in short for Albert and "buh" at the end.
And further proof that no southron commentators should write about Scotland:-
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Edinburgh numbers are very similar for a minor party looking for 1 seat.
I would say Scotland needs an alternative green voice app that staunch unionist can sort the planet. Not to mention those who have been alienated by the way Wightman was treated.
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@acsimpson - Agreed. Greens are SNP with recycling.
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1976 Jim Sillars split from Labour and formed separate Scottish Labour Party. He was elected a# was a pal. But then not ablle to sustain momentum. Of course He didn’t leave the Labour Party, the Labour Party left him.
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I am hearing “L’Alba, c’est moi” from Wee Eck in his dulcet Doric tone
Just an early morning auditory hallucinationPosted 4 years ago # -
Or perhaps
Apres moi it’ll be gie dreichPosted 4 years ago # -
Some background on SP electoral system -
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Is he a thorn ,or just a wee prick, in Nicola’s side?
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@ jss
The answer to that is partly ‘depends if he/others get elected’.
In the run up to the election it causes her problems.
How much to ignore him? How much to focus on ‘unsuitable for office’?
AS seems to be intent on focusing on ‘getting Indy done’, and not attacking NS. But what about his ‘army’??
Apparently at his press conference, the first question he took was from Wings...
Additionally, an extra pro-Indy party is already getting some opposed to Indy going on about “gaming” the ‘unfair’ electoral system.
At best that is a distraction, but it could develop as a ‘concern’ that further obscures any (chance of) a serious discussion about policies.
Arguably, under new leadership, Labour could do not bad at this election - but do they have attractive policies that distinguish them from the SNP? (I don’t count ‘opposing Indy’ as a policy - though obviously it will be a reason for some people to vote Lab).
Lab has had a long term interest in devising a coherent ‘UK not Indy’ strategy, but they have failed to agree one - for many reasons.
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Glenn Campbell
@GlennBBCFormer justice secretary @KennyMacAskill has quit the SNP to stand for Alex Salmond’s @AlbaParty in the Holyrood election
I guess that means Alba now holds the East Lothian seat in the UK parliament
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Lordee Lord Alba average age 70?
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MacAskill's piece in the Hootsmon:
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@gembo, mebbes but they now have the same number of MPs in Scotland as the Labour Party...
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Wee Eck pretty canny to spot this use ( or misuse?) of Holyrood system. I just read interesting paper from Glasgow uni (eprints.gla.ac.uk/145353)on how the AMS system was decided on by the Scottish Constitutional Convention in 1990’s. Seems Jack Mconnel’s remark about it preventing a Nat majority was directed internally at Labour Party since they were going to lose several seats with any change to any form of PR. An attempt to mollify opposition within Labour ranks whilst allowing a new form of greater accountability in the New Parliament.
SNP ,indeed all parties seem quite content with it - but perhaps questioning it now that it is being exploited in an unforeseen way by the Alba-itesPosted 4 years ago # -
that's the Green list vote decimated, then
all i care about now is getting Annabelle Ewing out of my constituency
which shouldn't be too hard, given that she lives in Perthshire
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@jss: That link doesn't seem to work. Could you check it and maybe correct it? I would be interested to read the paper you reference.
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I am a curious person and will vote for independence in an Indy ref. But at holyrood, I will revert to type and give the old Labour Party my votes. But if andy W
Was in Lothian I might swither and now with a,Luba I might need to think about greens.So I am in no position to judge but if I was a person who only voted for parties espousing independence I would stick with SNP and green. I would not entertain a party led by a non-convicted slime ball.
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Link fixed (one letter incorrect - probably due to autocorrect!!)
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Ahem. That eprint may be hosted at gla.ac.uk but it is co-authored by an Edinburgh politics stalwart.
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Thanks for fixing link
It is worth a readPosted 4 years ago # -
Abstract anyway. InviteD to pay twenty quid for full paper.
@jss inference has More info than abstract
Love the jargon of the academics
Ok, they are being exact but also unnecessarily verbose?
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@gembo - I've seen talk about people switching from the Green SNP Handmaidens to the Alba anti-Sturgeonites but I can't see the kind of people who vote Green finding Alba at all attractive.
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Bellwether?
Check out what that term means In Middle English
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https://www.newstatesman.com/node/159674.
Gerry Hassan on Labour attempts to fame the system in years gone by.
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When Labour gave this away, they thought it was full proof, they thought they were in charge,
Whatever.
However, they still gave it away.
The tide turned on the deaths of John Smith and Donald Dewar.
Personally I pine a little for the days when Fat Eck was in the opposition. Not in the sense though of wishing that scenario to return.
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@gembo -
I am a curious person and will vote for independence in an Indy ref. But at holyrood, I will revert to type and give the old Labour Party my votes
If there was an old Labour party to vote for they may have backed a second IndyRef. Anas though has sacked a candidate for suggesting it might be ok for this part of the union to test how much more self governance it should have. Scottish Labour is opposed to the wasteful expense of useless nuclear weapons.
Defence is a reserved matter as is Erasmus, our trading relationship, our artists ability to interact with the rest of Europe. The UK is like having your business run by a faceless conglomerate with no ability to influence what and where you sell. Ads in papers by Union Unit telling farmers to seek out markets in Japan - get your wellies on and fly to Tokyo!
Businesses are normally pro Tory but think Scotland's food and drink sector will be wanting to see the back of them.
Money given out by HMRC is our money. We all pay and collect a stack of tax for Rishi and pals. Interesting though that 'Thanks English taxpayers!' for the 4% NHS Nursing pay rise has been trolling through Twitter.
This then countered with reminder that Scotland has an export record way ahead of rUK. (Decimated now due to Bxt & Cv19)Posted 4 years ago # -
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"This election is about taking Scotland forward - we deserve better than your desperate attempts to take us back to old arguments and the politics of the past. "In case you hadn't noticed Scotland is in the middle of a pandemic. "This election is not some kind of game, it is about focussing on a national recovery.
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