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Edinburgh Southern SNP candidate Catriona MacDonald has made use of her talent at languages to make videos in Chinese, French and Spanish encouraging international citizens who can take part in in May’s Holyrood elections for the first time ever to register to vote.
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@Rosie, competitive flag shagging you say?
Albative absolute...
@crowriver - these must be special editions with the flag of St George so prominent. Maybe just the way they fold them!
@Rosie - Liberal Democrats and Scottish Greens more flag free. Willie Rennie's party leaflet promotes closer ties with Europe - not sure how.
To vote in a Scottish Parliament election you must be registered to vote in Scotland and aged 16 years or over on the day of the poll. You must also be:• a British or Irish citizen, or
• a Commonwealth citizen, who has leave to remain in the UK or who does not require leave to remain in the UK, or
• a citizen of another European Union country, or
• a qualifying foreign citizen, who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need such permission.
The mandate in Scotland is broader than the southern half of island though - so Scottish politics may have something decent in it? Internationalism might be a good thing to counteract too much Great British this and that or whatever equivalent is here (can debate though as too much air travel bad)? It's sometimes said that the 2014 Indy failure was part fueled by European Union residents voting to ensure that we remained part of the UK and therefore EU. At that point people in Scotland were maybe 'unionist' in the sense they want to work with other countries and travel and work there.
"a qualifying foreign citizen, who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need such permission."
Worth highlighting that this is new, and means that almost every adult resident in Scotland is allowed to vote.
"Flag-shagging" = "banging on about the constitution" - y'know the sort of thing that brings out All Under One Banner and the like waving saltires.
@Rosie, so a bit like Last Night Of The Proms then?
When did Last Night start becoming so over-flagged?
Anyone watch the TV debate last night - clips on social media?
Anas Sarwar focused on backlog of NHS treatment which everyone knows is real. Staff of course working flat out in PPE for whole shifts so agreement there that more needs done. NS mentioned mobile units.
Lorna Green of Greens did very well. Often called the SNP's 'Gardening division' by some (!) She did point out how our 'garden' of Scotland's peat bogs and new woodlands will count to alleviate climate change. Also hit out at parties of old white rich men - choose your target! Supporter of another indy vote.
Willie Rennie - reinforced his status as a nice guy surrounded by politicians! Always cheers me up.
Douglas Ross mentioned IndyRef 16 times.
Syrian member of audience asked why his party would not want him to have a vote here.
@chdot, I seem to recall it's been like that for a long time. Not sure when the pith helmet thing started though - The Raj?
‘Always’ some flags, but don’t know if gradual escalation or a surge at some point.
When Chinese (made) flags became really cheap??
@crowriver - I don't think that lot at the proms are waving flags in support of a specific political party (unless they're Ukippers of course). That kind of flag waving is like at world cups or the Olympics - cultural rather than political. "Flag-shagging" is the SNP's only raison d'etre.
Man I assume, was flying a Union flag at Braehead the other week. In his garden. Now he has two of them. New flagpole and everything. It says Champions across the flags
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Former Edinburgh Southern SNP MSP Jim Eadie has quit the SNP to join Alba and will stand as a list candidate in Mid-Scotland and Fife.
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""Flag-shagging" is the SNP's only raison d'etre."
If you you mean they're nationalists, then sure.
But as someone who studies political iconography fairly seriously, I'm often struck that they don't actually use the saltire that much. it is absent from their historical campaign material and publications, and even more recently, their party emblem and colours are more common than blue/white/saltire.
If I had time to sample carefully, we might well see different patterns at different elections, but my sense from a pilot study is the SNP has not overplayed the saltire.
Where it seems to function more is, as you note, as a unifying image across different branches of the independence movement, perhaps because it is not closely identified with any one party.
I suspect a case could be made that most uses of the saltire in our daily lives are actually more civic than political?
anecdata: my primary school in canada's twitter account still shows a picture of the school with a saltire on the flagpole.
"I suspect a case could be made that most uses of the saltire in our daily lives are actually more civic than political?"
For the driving communmity (ducks..), saltires are often prominently displayed hanging from motorway bridges with Yes2 or some such written on them.
I'm not on dual carraidgeways, or motorways very often, but see these flags proportionately more than not, when I am in a car.
Never been a fan of displaying political memorabelia, those who display Union flags, or Saltires, or Rampant lions, or political party flags/banners in their windows I've most often found are best avoided.
I would have thought the SCO / saltire bumper stickers were more common?
excellent example of what we call 'banal nationalism".
A little Ecosse bumper sticker works well in Wales and France if we ever go there with GB plates. Probably L’Irlande too.
A saltire cannot be flown from a civic building unless accompanied by a Union flag NB the Union flag should not have Champions written on it
Before he was in trouble for where did the war on want funds go, gorgeous George was In trouble for flying the Palestinian Flag from Dundee Council Building.
"cultural rather than political"
Hmmm. I don't think either the Saltire or the Union Flag are closely associated with particular parties, though the Conservatives did have the latter as part of their logo prior to the current (English?) oak tree.
What is culture? What is politics? How can there be "culture wars" if culture is not political?
Reckon the chaps wearing pith helmets at the Last Night are making a political statement at a cultural event where Rule Britannia and Land Of Hope And Glory are played as the finale. As are the flag wavers, just slightly less imperial.
Actually just checked the logos and it seems the current Conservative logo does feature the union flag, and the Scottish Conservatives features the saltire! (Though of course a red. white and blue version). So if any party is flag-shagging...
That Keir Starmer flag pic is photoshopped is it not, at the very least the flags on the left seem to be another photo.
The Johnson one looks real.
@cb, well spotted yes I think it has been "enhanced" for dramatic effect. There are some (many?) in the Labour movement unhappy that Sir Kieth is draping himself in the "butcher's apron"...
Here's a real one:
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If Boris cared as much about NHS pay as he did flags, we'd be less angry
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19200042.janey-godley-decided-launch-political-party
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Battleground
Edinburgh Southern
Winning party (2016): Scottish Labour
Second place (2016): SNP
Swing to lose: 1.47%
Leafy Edinburgh Southern has changed hands more times than a rusty penny. Formerly Edinburgh South prior to the 2008 boundary review, the well-heeled suburban constituency is known for producing razor thin majorities.
In 2003, Lib Dem stalwart Mike Pringle beat Labour’s Angus Mackay to win Edinburgh South by just 158 votes.
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The list for the Lothians constituencies and the region additional members vote is now online, if anyone's interested.
Among the alternative parties are Women's Equality, Family, Reform UK and Abolish the Scottish Parliament. You can even vote Communist if you want. No SSP or RISE this time though.
BOB, Bonnie Prince is first name on that list
a good omen for you there, crowriver
Is Fiona hyslop really fourth on the SNP loth8an list.? That ain’t high enough.
@bax, wrong constituency mate. I'm in Edinburgh North & Leith. If I was in Edinburgh Central it would be a no brainer.
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