“If they are knowledgeable enough they might search for any links to their survey.“
Ok
They should be flattered anyone takes it ‘seriously’...
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Posted 3 years ago #
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“I have asked if they mean by helping us to cycle more safely.
They don’t.“
Well yes.
This, and so much else in the ‘modern world’, is all about protecting/preserving (largely unacknowledged) privilege.
There’s a fabulous bit in Barack Obama‘s autobiography (R4 today) about him calling a meeting of bank bosses after the crash to suggest that they don’t pay themselves bonuses.
He was staggered to find that not only did they regard themselves as victims, but they blamed HIM for encouraging the public to think badly of them.
I’m sure some/all of us sometimes forget some degrees of privilege - basic fitness, ability/willingness to cycle - plus bike(s).
BUT
Compared with the entrenched views that owning/using/publicly storing cars is a RIGHT...
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Wow - someone should tell those guys about the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). I can't see how that survey is compliant, but I'm not going to say how in a public forum, as they aren't getting any help from me.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Roll on 11/01 for the lanes to get installed.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Just looked at Cllr Webber's Twitter feed and now I need a shower.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I’ve had her blocked for some time but I took a look. That is just vile.
Posted 3 years ago # -
It would be good to know what, if anything, she is trying to achieve with this unpleasantness.
Posted 3 years ago # -
At the risk of breaking <Rule 1> it may just be an expression of her personality.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I wonder if her house is entirely decorated in shades of grey?
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Genuinely at a loss what to say here. Kind of makes me think of the "Daddy, what did YOU do in the great war?" poster. Imagine in years to come having to answer that you were on the side of greater virus transmission AND climate change.
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The Nasty party is full of Nasty people
Posted 3 years ago # -
@Morningsider. So true.
Our German colleagues call them ewiggestrige. And that's being nice.
Posted 3 years ago # -
For those that missed it cycling Twitter has just unveiled one of the most ardent anti-LTN campaigners as a senior employee of an electric car company.
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It’s not really a car company, but it (well known to some locally) does raise questions - which he mostly doesn’t answer - about motivations.
Says today ‘against local LTN, not all SfP measures’.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Correction, Clarification, Erratum;
It is an electric car accessory company. So in the same way that oil companies are not car companies, this is not an electric car company.
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Only against an LTN that has any impact. Any other SfPs which do not impact on life, business, getting about in a motor are fine.
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@ AyeRat
Not correcting you as such, this individual is very keen on picking on other people ‘mistakes’.
But he still manages to fall down his own black holes!!
https://twitter.com/dhunter100/status/1340950999528316933
(A rare apology.)
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@ gembo that would seem to be a reasonable summary, unwilling to articulate what he actually wants.
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Once again, at the risk of breaching <rule 1>, this guy has gone from a hyper local campaign against the East Craigs LTN to trying to whip up a storm against the supposed sinister influence of “embedded” Spokes/Sustrans members in the council shaping transport policy against the poor oppressed driver, despite being presented with evidence to the contrary.
He’s a more presentable PGTips.
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He gives cover all apology in the biog blurb thingy in thre sidebar @CHdot from diverging from rugby chit chat onto road closures
I wish Monty Python would bring back The Gumby’s (prof Enid Gumby mynfavourite)
Then I could shout out MY BRAIN HURTS. And people would get my reference,
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@chdot
It is OK, the correction was valid.
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“despite being presented with evidence to the contrary”
Yeah that was yesterday.
It’s clear he’s a troll (calculating or not).
I’ve stopped engaging.
Cllr Doc is defending him.
They are welcome to each other.
I always try to pretend I’m rational and base desires (more people cycling, less traffic etc.) on sense (the term common sense is becoming devalued), obviously some people don’t want (more) car/driving restrictions, but the whole anti-SfP ‘movement’ is surreal.
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Looked like he was trying to whip up a strawscreen to avoid committing to any single reasonable point, but made the classic error of proposing that Spokes have the sort of influence on transport policy of a tsunami on a grain of sand, rather than that of a raindrop on a mountain. Still, I was impressed how Spokes' secret mind rays were able to make people across the whole of the UK to buy loads of extra bicycles early in lockdown when the roads were briefly quiet and people were more assiduously avoiding crowded transport enclosures.
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"Meanwhile SusTrans, a cycling pressure group...."
SusTrans exert pressure principally through the Casimir Effect.
Posted 3 years ago # -
The Gumby Brain Surgery Team are taking bookings
Posted 3 years ago # -
The Casimir effect is measurable...
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Had to look it up
Posted 3 years ago # -
Think one point of all this this ‘need’ for a campaign along the lines of -
“Motorists EARN your privilege”
No idea how it might work, but clearly (as well as from all those you ignore many of the current laws/rules) drivers need to understand that the status quo is not some sort of god-given-right and, more importantly, some things they have got used to will have to reduced/taken away - road space, drive/park where you like options hidden subsidies - new roads, cheap fuel etc.
That’s for climate/social justice reasons and also making places nicer for EVERYONE.
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I'm bored, so thought I might deconstruct the argument that "30km of cycle lanes" represents another stunning victory for the silver-tongued lotharios/sirens of Spokes in their ongoing seduction of the Council.
First up, the "30km" is lane length, not route length. No-one counts road lengths by adding the combined length of the up/down lanes. The "30km" is really 15km.
The City of Edinburgh Council manages 1,486km of local roads. So, cycle lanes have been installed along 1% of the city's road network.
How much of the available road space do these lanes take up? Many of the lanes have been installed on dual carriageways or in spaces previously used for vehicle parking. Most of the cycle lanes are around 1.5m - 2m wide, so they account for roughly 33% of the width of most of these roads. So a third of the road space on 1% of the road network - for simplicity lets call that 0.33% of Edinburgh's road space.
Now, many of the "new" lanes simply formalise existing advisory cycle lanes, such as on Old Dalkeith Road or Ferry Road. Hard to estimate how much of the 15km these account for, but being conservative lets say 25%. As this is already space allocated for cycling we can knock this off the total "new" space. This means that cyclists have been temporarily allocated an additional 0.25% of Edinburgh's road space. Or to put it another way - 99.75% of the road space is still available to general traffic.
Sorry Spokes - the Council sneaked off with Student Flats guy while you were at the bar...
Posted 3 years ago # -
Facts? FACTS!
No use against prejudice.
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