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OS Maps - past their use by date?

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  1. acsimpson
    Member

    When gembo mentioned the Covenanters grave up this thread I tried to locate it on OSM but sadly it hadn't yet been mapped. It does however show on osmaps online. It also shows on the landranger and explorer view levels on the magic maps site.

    There's an interesting article on a game Swiss cartographers play here: https://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/en/home/meta/search.detail.news.html/swisstopo-internet/news2016/didyouknow/161221.html

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. acsimpson
    Member

    I've just spotted an interesting "feature" in google maps "satellite" images of west Edinburgh. IIRC these are a a mixture of aerial and satellite images but the aerial layer doesn't appear to be consistently updated. For instance over Cammo/Barnton at the moment there are a couple of rectangles with imagery from this summer which the surrounding areas are still a few years old:

    Although I got the highlight wrong. The western rectangle actually extends south to Turnhouse Road. Where Meadowfield farm is still standing.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @acsimpson, if we don’t do the Ride t9 the Sun again how about a cycle hike to the Covenanters grave on the summer solstice? All invited if allowed.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. acsimpson
    Member

    @gembo, I'm definitely up for that.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The SUNLIT Uplander was created to see the sun rise over the Covenanters' Grave.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    The Three Amigos, any advance? As I said on t(e wrong thread anyone not living in balerno might want to drive there first . Just that the cycle back after schlepping in to the Gravestone and back even with the wind behind might be a little wearisome.

    As mentioned upstream in this thread the route has very little obvious path. There is a meeting point where the route going in from Crosswood reservoir (where we would leave our bikes chained) is joined from the diagonal route that comes in from the Tarbrax turn where the path becomes distinct again.

    Both routes have obvious paths near the beginning but then these quickly Peter out and you are left scanning the horizon which is tricky into the sun for the next Way Pole. Not helped if the next Way Pole has in fact fallen over.

    The Sunlit Uplander has been whispering Covenanter Covenanter to me quite recently.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It's traditional to put up a route and profile if you're doing a ride mate. Map My Ride, Ride With GPS. All that good web stuff.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Think gembo wants to lead you on a merry dance.

    Unmarked paths, pre-dawn?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    I've been up to the coventers grave quite a lot of hike a bike getting over the other side of the Pentlands but I'm game.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Tom is coming and the leader of the band We Travel In Hope is bringing her accordion. Tom has asked just in case that there will be no Naked Dancing.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @gembo

    New thread or it's no go. Happy to travel in hope. When I dance naked in the hills (and I do from time to time) I keep my shoes on.

    New thread. Route map. Mmmmm...okay?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    @Iwrats, sensible man, adders and vipers everywhere, some, but not me would say you are not quite totally naked there if u still have your gutties on.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. cb
    Member

    @acsimpson, your right-hand rectangle, in an older revision of the satellite data, had a gigantic "POO!" trampled into the crops growing in the field, now sadly list to time, so it's not all progress.

    (Story confirmed here)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. acsimpson
    Member

    @cb, Thanks for reminding me of that, it was visible when I moved to the area. I was about to bemoan the lack of access to historical google imagery, but I've just discovered you can get them on the downloaded version of Google earth.

    The picture in question was taken on New Years Day 2005. I wonder if it was someone who knew the image was taken or just people having a laugh.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    'Poo' is a really funny word to write in a field. Does anyone use that word except middle class parents talking to their kids?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    It is the shortest sweary word for trampling purposes

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. cb
    Member

    "Does anyone use that word except middle class parents talking to their kids?"

    OMG, what do working class and upper class parents say?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    @cb they say

    Rule 2

    And

    Rule 2

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. acsimpson
    Member

    Poo might be the shortest such word they could think of but they then went to the effort of creating a massive exclamation mark at the end thereby increasing the work past the other classes words.

    Had they chosen other alternative words they would quite possibly have found their work censored too.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. urchaidh
    Member

    I grew up in a house where the word 'jobbie' was used, though only when absolutely necessary.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
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    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. acsimpson
    Member

    Back on a previous off topic:

    Does Strava have a way of preventing popularity creep? If a route is visible on it's heat map then more people are likely to follow it and it will therefore gain in popularity. Eventually it can become a self fulfilling popularity much like celebrity culture.

    The opposite could potentially also apply. If a route is closed for a period of time then alternatives will become more popular and the original route can dwindle.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. paddyirish
    Member

    @acsimpson, an individual can control whether their activities contribute to Metro and Heatmap. Settings> Privacy and Controls> Metro and Heat Map.

    e.g. a CCE trip to Covenanter's Grave if 12 CCErs recorded on Strava but turned this setting off, then the heatmap wouldn't know we were there.

    However you may want it turned on to show a commuter route is a safe one. A lot of manual toing and froing there...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. acsimpson
    Member

    @paddyirish, indeed. I don't think you can turn it off for a single ride (except hopefully by making it visible only to yourself or perhaps friends).

    It could be an interesting experiment. At the moment there is no visible route to the grave from the north. Will it become visible after this trip takes place?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. SRD
    Moderator

    Probably not the right thread, but anyway …

    Used OS explorer maps tiles in ViewRanger App while in darkest Perthshire.

    Combination of having the GPS ‘dot’ telling me where I was, but proper OS mapping features was just great. (As long as i remembered to actually look at it).

    ViewRanger App is still annoying and fiddly. Used it mainly just for the map, although have used their routes on Munros and similar. And, yes, we always have a spare battery pack fir the phone. And a paper map snd compass if we’re up a mountain.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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