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News on LTNs? (Leith/Corstorphine/East Craigs Connections/Oxford)

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  1. Stickman
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    Council survey on the Corstorphine LTN published. Turns out that there isn’t majority opposition. Cllr Arthur:

    Corstorphine Connections Trial Road Safety Scheme

    The Council has just published a survey of local opinion on this "LTN". There is lots for it to reflect on, but there are some interesting results.

    Positives:
    ✔️ 49% of people say they support the scheme. This is 67.1% with "Neither nor" & "No opinion / don’t know" responses removed.
    ✔️ 81% support the wider footways
    ✔️ 74% support the narrower roads
    ✔️ 41% of parents of children aged under 16 say "it is safe for children aged 8 and over to walk to school unaccompanied in this neighbourhood". Before the trial, only 27% of parents agreed with this.
    ✔️ The number of people who say "fast moving vehicles" are the biggest problem for children travelling safely in the area has fallen from 22% to 10%.

    On the downside:
    ❌61% say the biggest problem for children travelling safely in the area is still "busy traffic/too many vehicles". This has increased from 54%.
    ❌ 32% say the biggest problem for people walking/wheeling in the area is still "Too many vehicles". This has increased from 24%.
    ❌ Of the 19% of people who made further comments: 23% felt the trial had "not improved congestion/moved problem to other streets"; 18% felt it had "caused more congestion / traffic jams"; and, 5% mentioned the "bus gate on Manse Road".
    ❌ People now say that traffic is less of an issue on Featherall Avenue, but there are increased concerns about Corstorphine High Street, Saughton Road North & Ladywell Road.

    ▶️ The survey suggests the scheme is delivering key benefits for the community. The challenge now is how to retain and enhance these whilst dealing with the negatives (largely vehicle volume related).

    Report: edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file…


    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/34371/residents-and-shoppers-survey-wave-2

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    How to save a Low Traffic Neighbourhood: Overcoming hecklers, “dodgy” data, and political intrigue as councillors prevent early scrapping of active streets trial

    At a meeting disrupted by anti-LTN activists, councillors voted in favour of retaining the Exeter trial, after cycling and walking campaigners criticised a “flawed” and “biased” report suggesting the scheme could be abandoned

    https://road.cc/content/news/councillors-prevent-early-scrapping-active-streets-trial-306369

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Government claims that it blocked councils from installing low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) appear to have been a fiction, the Guardian has learned, in another apparent sign that Rishi Sunak’s “plan for drivers” is thus far mainly performative.

    After the revelation last month that the prime minister’s decision to prioritise driving over walking and cycling was prompted in part by “15-minute city” conspiracy theories, documents show that a claim about the wider policy shift was invented.

    In May last year, when the most recent tranche of Department for Transport (DfT) funding for local active travel schemes was set out, some newspapers were briefed that ministers had blocked all money for LTNs, which use physical barriers or cameras to stop motor through-traffic on smaller residential roads.

    One article read: “Mark Harper, the transport secretary, has stripped funding from all projects which involve the creation of car-free zones.”

    However, official papers seen by the Guardian show that the lack of LTNs was because none of these schemes that wanted DfT money were deemed to be of good enough quality and that Harper had no role in the decision.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/04/claims-government-blocked-low-traffic-schemes-were-a-fiction-papers-suggest

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. chdot
    Admin

    Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popular

    Exclusive: Downing Street hoped study would strengthen arguments against LTNs and report was buried at first

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-generally-popular-report-ordered-by-sunak-finds

    Posted 1 month ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    NEW: for those following the buried LTN report saga, I’m told the polling on popularity took place inside *and* around the LTN. The report wasn’t very clear, but a source from one of the four areas says the polling took place all around the LTN itself, as well

    https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1766916299408449631?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    How long will councillors and politicians be able to hold out on the lie that no one wants LTNs?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Clyde Loakes, the deputy leader of Labour-led Waltham Forest council who also holds the council’s air quality cabinet post, said removing DVLA access would “destroy our popular and successful active travel schemes, put schoolchildren in danger, open up to fraud resident priority parking schemes and gut our important concessionary travel schemes for older people and those with disabilities.”

    He said: “This is micro-management taken to another level by those who clearly don’t understand the issue and the implications and consequences of these latest proposals.”

    A DfT spokesperson said: “We remain committed to the measures set out in our plan for drivers, including exploring options on councils’ access to DVLA data to enforce traffic schemes such as low-traffic neighbourhoods. This is part of our long-term plan to help people across our country travel in the way that works best for them.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/15/uk-government-seeks-to-limit-low-traffic-schemes-as-part-of-its-plan-for-drivers

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Finally published - government's own review into Low Traffic Neighbourhoods shows that they are generally supported!

    Yet, despite their own research, this morning government has gone out with load of angry rhetoric against LTNs, 20mph & even bus lane cameras.

    Desperate stuff

    https://x.com/willnorman/status/1769280718234931409

    (London's Walking & Cycling Commissioner.

    Working with @MayorOfLondon to build a safer, greener & healthier city for all. Tweets & typos all mine.)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Let's look at facts:

    20mph saves lives - 25% fall in fatal collisions on London's main roads

    Government own research show LTNs are generally popular & work

    Camera enforcement makes roads safer and prevents traffic chaos - box junctions, bus lanes, parking etc etc

    https://x.com/willnorman/status/1769281616759619983

    Posted 1 month ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Desperately desperate

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    Plan for planetary destruction, mair like

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    P.s.

    Above only applies to England of course.

    But still sets a tone…

    Perhaps SG and SA should join together and point this out (?!)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. chdot
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  15. chdot
    Admin


    The British Parking Association has spoken out over a review into LTNs and potential disbanding of them.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/new-driving-laws-a-disaster-28863802

    Government green lights nuisance driving

    In response to the statement and guidance issued on the 17th of March for Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and the Plan For Drivers, Isaac Occhipinti from the BPA commented:

    “LTNs are a relatively new development, and we continuously work with our members to ensure best practice in any traffic or parking management schemes. However, whilst we accept that the need for enhanced guidance for new traffic schemes should always be explored, the current rhetoric and implied punishments for Councils is proving to be extremely damaging and misleading.

    He went on: "We are calling on Government to lay these regulations as soon as possible and to have a plan that truly supports the majority of compliant drivers, rather than effectively rewarding non-compliance."

    https://www.britishparking-media.co.uk/news/government-green-lights-nuisance-driving

    SO

    There’s isn’t a Gov War on Motorists??

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. Stickman
    Member

    Lots of responses to Scott Arthur’s videos of Corstorphine tRAFfIc cHAoS, which he filmed between 8am and 9am on Friday.

    Apparently this isn’t peak time, and he won’t have seen the real congestion which happens at other times. Perhaps the best comment came from one of the ACE leaders, who told him to come and see the traffic at 7am. The Manse Road bus gate doesn’t operate until 8.30.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    A government target to ensure everyone lives within 15 minutes of green space such as parks and rivers – not that our filthy waterways are much of an attraction – has evaporated; and though fewer cars make urban streets safer to play in, the Tories have gone cold on low-traffic neighbourhoods. Meanwhile, teenagers loitering in public spaces are met with adult suspicion and hostility.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/02/kids-time-online-tech-firms-government-play

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

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