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News on LTNs? (Leith/Corstorphine/East Craigs Connections/Oxford)

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  1. Dave
    Member

    In one world, the defining characteristic of a low traffic neighborhood is that it has reduced through traffic. Somehow councillors would have us believe that widening the pavement counts as an LTN (is Princes St not our biggest LTN then?)

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    This will only mean more traffic cutting through the area on the way to somewhere else along on a key walking route (inc to school) where the pavement is a little more than two feet wide.

    https://x.com/DrScottArthurMP/status/1849413074970656942

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  3. Yodhrin
    Member

    Honestly the most galling thing about this is the craven SNP [rule 2s] defending this on twitter by claiming there was no point in defending the scheme because it wasn't ambitious enough, and that if someone(not them, obviously) were to implement a *real* high quality LTN they'd be right there in the front rank to defend it.

    "Yes, we widdled ourselves and ran away weeping at the sight of five old men and a smirking lib dem councillor, but array us against the much larger backlash a proper LTN would get and we will stand firm, Scout's Honour!"

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  4. Dave
    Member

    I could see the argument if they abstained, saying they'd support a more ambitious LTN, but I don't think you can really get away with voting something down because it doesn't go far enough, when you know for a fact it won't be replaced with anything better

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Oh Yes, the SNP were like Fredo in the Godfather - Weak

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Meant to say I have worked out who Pidgin Post is but who is Jester Mouse?

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. neddie
    Member

    Schroedinger's LTN:

    “Hopefully we won’t go back to the time where you can’t get out the driveway at peak times. It was a rat run before at school times and you could sit in traffic all day unable to get in or out of your house.

    Both "trapping people in their homes" when there, but also "trapping people in their homes" when not there.

    Could it be the LTN is actually not related to congestion at all?

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  9. neddie
    Member

    Schroedinger's road safety "expert"

    I do not have young children...

    ...but there were already safe routes for the majority of children

    Yes, I don't have young kids, but I'm also the authority on the safety of young kids

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Corstorphine seems to have a few people like this?

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  11. bakky
    Member

    Driveway guy cited above was in favour - living on Manse Rd. Consistent with other LTNs in the city where residents on the streets with filters are often directly benefitting and it's others who can no longer pass through making all the noise (or boundary road dwellers inaccurately blaming displacement when there's just a general post-covid / Edinburgh growth swell in congestion).

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  12. Rob
    Member

    Leith LTN 6 month post-implementation monitoring was shared in the Leith Connections newsletter a couple of weeks ago - https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking-projects-1/leith-connections/7

    Full report here - https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/15857/leith-connections---6-month-post-implementation-data-report

    Market research here - https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/15555/leith-connections-market-research-survey

    Things seem to be generally positive, certainly compared with what I'm seeing from Corstorphine.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  13. ejstubbs
    Member

    @chdot:

    VOTE
    6 - scrap bus gate (Lib/Con/SNP)
    3 - keep bus gate (Lab/Green)

    I just popped back to check my recollection of this and as I thought, it makes it even simpler to choose which squares to put numbers in on my ballot for the Colinton/Fairmilehead ward vacated by by the prof.

    I'd already ruled out the myriad unaffiliated and whackjob party candidates, most of whom (AFAICT from what little I scanned of the leaflets they pushed through my letterbox, before filing them in the recycling bin) are extremely agitated about potholes. I mean, yes, poor road surfaces create problems - but arguably much more so for cyclists (and motorcyclists) than for drivers of four-wheeled motor vehicles, which latter (a) run far less risk of being unceremoniously unseated into the midst of traffic by ruts, ridges and cavities in the hardtop than users of single-track vehicles do, and (b) contribute overwhelmingly more to the problem in the first place.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  14. Dave
    Member

    I'm completely mystified by the electoral calculus the SNP deployed here. They won't recover much ground locally because it's always going to be seen as a failed SNP scheme that was taken down by the Lib Dems. But now Labour can claim to have defended the LTN while also placating drivers by its removal

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    The SNP are maD FOR MOTORS

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  16. Yodhrin
    Member

    @Dave the cynic in me(which is, who are we kidding, pretty much all of me) thinks it's less to do with elections and more about internal party politics. Councillors with their eye on reaching(or re-entering) the giddy heights of *real* politics as an MSP or MP previously looked at an at least rhetorically progressive SNP leadership, allied with the Greens, and concluded their best shot at an "in" with the high heidyins was to ape that style; cue active travel and lots of talking about SUDS and street trees. Now they look at the leadership and see the North East-aligned somewhat small-c conservative pro-oil & gas sentiments of the pre-07 SNP returning to prominence; time to shed anti-car sentiment and realign yourself as a "reasonable" centrist that wants to "bring people with you" etc.

    Too many councillors see it as a job interview for proper politics and so we're not the bosses they're trying to impress.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  17. neddie
    Member

    Apparently Marco Biagio has been given a roasting by the more progressive SNPers, namely Danny Aston. And has lost his post on the TRO committee, to be replaced by one L. Macinnes

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Things are looking up. Danny sensibe, Lesley understands

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Cllr Marco Biagi has announced his resignation from the Council to take up another position. While we are sad to lose his dedication and expertise, we are excited for his next chapter. He will be greatly missed by colleagues and constituents alike. More to follow.

    https://x.com/simitaskumar/status/1858814136596996542

    Apparently going to work for FM Swinney as a SpAd. He gave the impression he thought council work beneath him.

    Posted 1 day ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    That's another by election in Colinton/Fairmilehead coming up.

    If the Lib Dems win again then the council composition will be:

    17 SNP
    15 Lib Dems
    11 Labour
    10 Green
    9 Conservative
    1 Ross McKenzie

    At some point will the Lib Dems eventually actually want to be the official administration?

    Posted 1 day ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    Safety activists take Tower Hamlets mayor to court over low-traffic reversal

    Save Our Safer Streets crowdfunds to challenge Lutfur Rahman over scrapping three LTNs in London borough

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/20/safety-activists-take-tower-hamlets-mayor-to-court-over-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-ltn-reversal

    Posted 20 hours ago #

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