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This is an entrance to the NEPN on Wardie Road.
Presume to get a DYL needs the full nonsense TRO process?
A white line with end bars wouldn’t?
That might be as effective in reality (vehicles frequently park here).
IF CEC put in place a ‘pavement extension’, at least as wide as the gap in the wall and the width of a car onto the road - plus (presumably) bollards, would that be the same as the process for DYLs or??
My understanding is: Yes, full TRO needed for DYLs. No TRO needed for white line; I've seen these be installed within a could of weeks.
Pavement extension is an excellent question, which I don't know the answer to. Will try and find out.
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I suspect one answer to the extended pavement is "A white line is a fraction of the cost, let's try that first."
Seems you can BUY them if access is to your property!!
https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/roads-pavements/access-protection-markings/1
There’s even a specific email -
accessprotectionmarkings@edinburgh.gov.uk
Might be worth suggesting a few places…
Not so easy in Fife -
“
Please note we no longer provide white H bar markings at private residential driveways as due to over-use these markings were no longer effective. In certain circumstances we may provide them at accesses that are not obvious and would benefit from being highlighted. Please email traffic.management@fife.gov.uk if you wish such an access to be assessed.
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AFAIK If it was in England, and the Council had got a Special Enforcement Area, they could issue penalty charges for parking at a dropped kerb without needing a TRO or even an access protection marking. The Scottish Government hasn’t brought in similar legislation yet.
On Street View there's some white lines further along the road at driveways, which seem to be respected. Though of course a pavement buildout would also help with visibility around the parked cars.
“Though of course a pavement buildout would also help with visibility around the parked cars.“
YES
Which is why I think they would be a good ‘statement’ - ‘advertising’ the NEPN, because it’s worth it…
@slowcoach - dropped kerbs were included in the "pavement parking ban" legislation. Due to come into force in...2024 (maybe).
IF CEC put in place a ‘pavement extension’, at least as wide as the gap in the wall and the width of a car onto the road - plus (presumably) bollards, would that be the same as the process for DYLs or??
CEC have clarified to me that it would require an RSO, rather than a TRO, but otherwise yes, same faff and timescale (12-18 months).
They've added the Wardie Road example to their list of minor improvements, so I suppose we'll find out the timescale of adding a white line when it appears.
@Frenchy
Thanks
But
“They've added the Wardie Road example to their list of minor improvements”
Main question is why aren’t such things (access to NEPN) already on a list - in fact sorted years ago…?
Additionally I’m reasonably sure a local resident has already contacted CEC about this (will check).
An ETRO wouldn't cover it in the meantime - two bollards either side to block parking?
Are pavement build outs always accompanied by an RSO? I can't find any record of an RSO for the substantial pavement build outs created during the resurfacing of Lothian Road.
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