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Killer mobility scooter driver escapes prosecution

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  • Started 13 years ago by kaputnik
  • Latest reply from Morningsider

  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    From article on the Torygraph

    A sad story about a pensioner killed by another pensioner who hit her with his mobility scooter on the pavement, but interesting from the perspective that "police, who investigated the accident at Sandown, Isle of Wight, found that they were unable to bring charges against Mr Cousins under the Road Traffic Act"

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. Morningsider
    Member

    Yes, section 20 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 exempts the drivers of "invaild carriages" from almost all traffic regulations and offences.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. PS
    Member

    I wonder if it's a similar exemption that allows the guy with the blue badge to repeatedly park his car on the double yellows at the junction of Drummond Place and London Street without ever getting a ticket? Surely the doubleyellers are there because parking there makes the junction unsafe for other road users?
    [personalbugbear/]

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Kirst
    Member

    It depends what sort of scooter it is. Some of them are licensed for use on roads, but others are forbidden from the roads.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    PS: yeah, this drives me crazy too, especially when it blocks my visibility/makes me invisible....asked a traffic warden and they explained that blue badge holders _can_ park on double yellows unless there are little stripy bits on the kerbs too. Baffling! and potentially dangerous, especially when corners seem perpetually blocked.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    So letting blue badge holders park on double yellows achieved what in particular?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    o letting blue badge holders park on double yellows achieved what in particular?

    justification for not having more disabled bays?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. ruggtomcat
    Member

    It lets them access shops and so on, but I think its a bit outdated, there are a lot more diverse mobility solutions these days. My father had one as he was limited in his walking distance, but Ive never seen stripes on the kerb!

    Im sure the blue badge does not give carte-blanche (blue surely? ed) to obstruct traffic however.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. Min
    Member

    The stripes on the kerb appear to mean you can park on the 
    pavement instead.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Yeah it's between "put the flashers on and you can park in the middle of the wrong lane" and "the indicator stalk is unnecessary dead weight, dispose of it, indicate your lane intentions by driving in both lanes at once and clock up some hypermiles" the Highway Code (taxi driver's edition)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. cb
    Member

    "Stripes on the kerb"

    Presumably we're referring to the loading restriction markings here. Yellow lines are parking restrictions; the stripes on the kerb are loading restrictions.

    If there are no loading restrictions then anyone can stop on a double yellow, e.g. to collect something from a property or drop someone off.

    And restrictions aren't always 24-hour so you may be able to park on a double yellow too.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. Morningsider
    Member

    Again, it's the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 that provides the legislative basis for the Blue Badge scheme.

    Blue Badge holders can park on single or double yellow lines in Scotland without any time limit. They cannot park where there is a ban on loading or unloading along with yellow lines (i.e. little yellow stripes on the kerb). However, Badge holders should not park where it would cause a danger or obstruction to other road users – which seems to be the problem here. However, would you want to be the parking attendant that booked a disabled person?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    What about Red lines?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. Morningsider
    Member

    Red lines - a definite no-no during their hours of operation, even for Blue Badge holders.

    Should say that Blue Badge holders don't normally get ticketed if they are causing an obstruction or danger to other road users - however the police can arrange to have the offending vehicle removed. The Badge holder could then be prosecuted and/or have their Badge removed. I have never heard of this happening in practice though.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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