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Correct route from Elder Street to St Andrews Square?

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  • Started 2 years ago by robochaa
  • Latest reply from the canuck
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  1. robochaa
    Member

    Hi,

    When heading north on Elder Street and turning left onto York Place to head west, the road markings suggest I should mount the pavement, but there are no 'shared use' signs. Should I use the road instead?

    When then turning left to head south on North St Andrews Street, and I'm on the pavement as directed, I can cycle off the pavement onto the road after the turn, although it's narrow and raised and pedestrians will not be pleased (rightly so). If, however, I'm on the road and the traffic light is green, I can simply turn left, avoiding trams (light's green) and tram lines but there's a sign saying 'Trams only', so I should push the bike for 2m? (I get (illegally) beeped when I stay on my bike rather than push) The road markings and signage appear to suggest I should go straight ahead and then turn up the street at the west-side shared-use pavement, and then immediately diagonally cross the street and tram lines, which means displeasing pedestrians (again), and rightly so.

    I fell the sign should be changed to 'Trams and Cycles Only'?

    Is this the best place to discuss this, or should I contact the council directly and, if so, whom?

    Thanks,
    Gavin

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    “Is this the best place to discuss this, or should I contact the council directly“

    It’s not an either/or!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    If you’re on Twitter, worth tweeting @ City Centre ward Cllrs + Cllr Arthur.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "worth tweeting ... Cllr Arthur"

    Is it? :)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    “Is it? :)“

    Well there seems to be a 50/50 chance he’ll do something

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    he's never replied to any of my tweets.

    Thanks for flagging this robochaa. a route we use a lot (I've previously posted and blogged a lot about trying to get to/from elder st on bikes).

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. CycleAlex
    Member

    "I fell the sign should be changed to 'Trams and Cycles Only'?"
    You can't have this as the crossing over Nth St Andrew St runs at the same time as traffic on York Place.

    It's mostly a moot point anyway since CCWEL will change the junction in a few months: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/ccwel/downloads/file/153/section-three-general-arrangements

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I'm not sure there's much to be gained going up North St Andrew St that can't be achieved in a simpler fashion going up North St David Street.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    yes, I usually walk to St Andrew's square or cycle to Charlotte Square

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    “sure there's much to be gained going up North St Andrew St”

    Depends where your going.

    Direct route to Waverley.

    I always get off before the pedestrian crossing and push across to south side of Princes St.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. the canuck
    Member

    When then turning left to head south on North St Andrews Street, and I'm on the pavement as directed, I can cycle off the pavement onto the road after the turn, although it's narrow and raised and pedestrians will not be pleased (rightly so).

    I'm very confused. You're on York Place, turning left into N St Andrews St? Why would you be on the pavement? I take this section a lot, coming from Dublin Street, and I can't picture where you would be on pavement (except when going downhill North towards Dublin St).

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. the canuck
    Member

    There are quite a few signs that say 'Trams only' and I go on the tram route--if there isn't one breathing down my neck.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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