(I browsed around a few TEC meeting packs and the best I could find was a vague commitment to bring proposals to TEC late 2024)
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20 mph expansion - consultation (and aftermaths)
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Can you remember any of the specific streets involved?
Posted 1 year ago # -
It just came up because someone rolled their car over on Lanark Road in Juniper Green and the community council mentioned a resident asked them about 20mph, as though there hadn't been a huge consultation on it recently. It was earmarked to be 20 on the diagram at the time.
Posted 1 year ago # -
The consultation page itself says:
"Responses from the consultation will be used to inform detailed proposals which will be reported back to Committee towards the end of 2024."
The latest TEC "work plan" shows "20mph Speed Limit Implementation Plan" planned for the December 2024 meeting: https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s73038/5.1%20-%20Work%20Programme.pdf
It was last discussed at TEC in April, as far as I can tell. Paragraphs 4.20-23 here: https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s69299/Item%207.1%20-%20Road%20Safety%20Delivery%20Plan%202024-25.pdf
The webcast is here. I haven't watched it, so have no idea if 20mph was even mentioned, but the road safety section starts at 1:51:30.
Posted 1 year ago # -
I'm pretty sure that Craiglockart Avenue was one of the streets proposed to have a 20mph limit. Also part of Oxgangs Road North IIRC.
Come to think, weren't Cluny Gardens and Oxgangs Avenue included in the consultation? Both of those have been 20mph limits for some time now. Or were they part of a different plan and consultation?
Posted 12 months ago # -
The map of the most recent proposals is here: https://cityofedinburgh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d3530fbe026742e693dee6254ad6611d
Cluny Gardens and Oxgangs Avenue were both done in earlier reviews.
Posted 12 months ago # -
Since I go that way quite frequently, I am constantly puzzled by the stretch of 30mph speed limit on the A70 in Slateford which starts for no obvious reason 70m short of the traffic lights for Inglis Green Road (westbound). Yes, the A70 is 30mph from that junction westwards, fair enough - but why does the higher speed limit start before that junction, in the middle of basically nowhere - especially when traffic turning right into Inglis Green Road is straight back into a 20mph limit all the way to the Longstone bus garage roundabout?
Posted 4 months ago # -
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More 20mph roads likely for London after research reveals injuries and collisions cut by a third
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Posted 3 months ago # -
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From Monday June 9, we’ll begin implementing a series of speed reduction measures, from 40mph to 30mph, in locations across the city.
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Posted 2 weeks ago #
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My street, notionally a 20mph, was surveyed recently and they found the 85 percentile speed was 29.6mph and the average speed exceeded the 24mph tolerance noted in council papers.
I've been chasing the council to found out what actions they'd take to address this - "further speed reduction measures" apparently, but no real detail as to what or when. I anticipate at best some temporary signs that tell people their speed which wouldn't be ideal but even a small shift in driver behaviour can speed down everyone else.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
Speed humps are no longer effective with SUVs having such enormous tyres to soften bumps and also hugely over-powered to allow rapid speed increases between the humps.
I recently broke my long run of not having driven (for 4 years) and took out a hire car.
It had Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA, now mandated by the EU in all cars since July 2024), but the warnings it gives for speeding are absolutely pathetic - just a short and muted bleep-bleep noise that stops after a while, even if you continue over the limit.
(However, I told my sister-in-law, who likes a good speed, that the hire car "could not speed" when I had to follow her! She was pretty annoyed about having to drive "slowly" and even criticised my driving, LOL)
It's really shocking that the EU watered down ISA at the behest of the motor industry. It could have been so much more, with haptic feedback (strong push-back on the throttle, or vibration through the steering) or better still a default of not allowing speeding at all through the engine management (with limited-number-of-times-use and limited-duration override button for emergencies)
Bl**dy car industry, literally!
It only takes one car in front sticking to the limit to slow down all the other cars behind, so it wouldn't matter so much about older cars if at least the new ones were forced to stick to the limits
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
Some interesting background on ISA:
https://etsc.eu/opinion-will-intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-live-up-to-its-promise/
To be clear, we risk, in a worst-case scenario, ending up with a system that has limited safety benefits and annoys drivers.
But it doesn’t need to be this way. Carmakers are perfectly entitled to go above and beyond the minimum standards – as they do today on many aspects of vehicle safety in the EU. They can include digital maps of speed limits with regular updates, they can install systems that reduce engine torque rather than beeping incessantly and they can use sign-recognition technology that can interpret conditional speed limits. They have a choice. And we sincerely hope they do the right thing.
Posted 2 weeks ago #
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