https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/29320/city-mobility-plan-2021-2030
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“Active Travel Action Plan 2023 – Delivering the City Mobility Plan“
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Thought I would give this a quick once over this morning, skipping the introductory blurb the first thing that jumps out at me is the claim that:
Since 2010, approximately 130km of network have been either upgraded or built.
I mean - really!? Would we not have noticed?Grr - anyway, onwards...
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Okay, nothing much to disagree with in the walking chapter. Better pavement maintenance, tighter corner radii, more seating, lots of dropped kerbs, improved crossings with more "green man" time, improvements for wheelchair users, a focus on high traffic areas, priority at junctions including continuous pavements.
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I mean - really!? Would we not have noticed?
I suspect "upgraded" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that one!
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Oh dear - from the off the cycling chapter includes multiple references to the "challenges" of creating continuous networks due to "limited road space".
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“nothing much to disagree with“
That’s good, but as I’m sure you’ll agree, a plan/policy doesn’t mean anything will happen.
Also with existing practices, might not mean any changes in actual delivery.
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“130km of network have been either upgraded or built”
I think the k is a typo.
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Still going - that 130km figure is wild. It includes the entire length of the Union Canal in Edinburgh and the western part of the Water of Leith path, Cramond foreshore, the NEPN...the actual Forth Road Bridge!
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Meadows-Union canal planned completion date July 2025!
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Overall, the cycling chapter is pretty decent. Really just bringing together policies and plans we already know about. No new projects mentioned that I can see and delivery dates seem to be slipping further into the future.
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Wild cost estimate:
We estimate delivering every action in this plan to its fullest extent would cost £824m - £1,124bn (at 2022 prices).
That's not far off what it cost to build the Queensferry Crossing and its connecting motorways, but for projects that largely involve moving some kerbs and rejigging some junctions.
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Okay, that was only a brief skim through - but there really isn't anything particularly new in there. I suppose it does pull together strands from other recent plans into one place, which is helpful. Ultimately though, it is the same list of projects we have been looking at for the last decade or so attached to some warm words.
As @chdot says - delivery is everything. Given that we seem to have been going backwards over the last few months, with campaigners expending their energies on trying to maintain what we have, I can't say I feel massively inspired.
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We estimate delivering every action in this plan to its fullest extent would cost £824m - £1,124bn“
So
A decent hire scheme is small change…
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6.1 The option appraisal sets out a preferred option for a cycle hire scheme consisting of 140 docking stations, 1,120 bikes and 420 e-bikes (Option E) and that the scheme is procured and operated on the basis of a Managed Service
(Option1). This would require initial capital investment of £8.36m and an annual revenue subsidy of £2.08m.…
The remaining funding includes one off allocations of £0.5m in 2023/24, £0.5m in 2024/25 and £0.210 in 2025/26 and this has been put forward by officers as a proposed revenue budget saving in the Revenue Budget Framework 2023-27 report to the Finance and Resource Committee on 7 February 2023.
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http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17899&page=51#post-366121
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"At present, CCT proposes restrictions on through traffic for Bank Street, Market
Street and George St. Other key routes which could now be considered would
be North and South Bridges (Bridges corridor), Cowgate, the Lauriston Place
corridor and Lothian Road."Caveat on this is it may be just part-day.
I think that if through north/south car journeys via city centre are not a thing then traffic on Comiston etc would also reduce. If however there is dubiety over when restrictions are in force then nothing will change and it may even increase congestion. (People set off and then U turn as they do at Holyrood Park gates)
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Additional caveat being the pretty clear implication that if they restrict the bridges corridor in any way whatsoever, the price is they'll continue to treat Holyrood Park as a main through route for cars. The idea of forcing through traffic out of the city centre in its entirety just seems beyond them.
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Cllr Arthur said together the Active Travel and Public Transport action plans were “a gamechanger” for the Capital. He said: “Edinburgh will easily be leading Scotland if we get these plans approved – and that's just the start. In terms of sustainable transport, if we pull these things off, we will be one of the leading European cities." He said that, taking into account money made available by the Scottish Government, the city’s budget for active travel alone over the next ten years would just over £1 billion. “I can’t find any city that has bigger or more ambitious plans. The Active Travel and Public Transport action plans together, I think, are going to transform Edinburgh for the better, cut congestion, and make it easier for people to come here and spend time here.”
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Spokes response to Transport Cttee
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https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1620491523937939456
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#EdinWebCast #CityMobilityPlan
Q: Cllr Munro (Con) says council should implement majority views in consultns
A: Council must be honest about overall options for city, and why particular local decisions taken
@lmacinnessnp adds that consultn is foe ideas/comments, not referendum“
https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1621171409522200578
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Cllr Munro (Con) says council should implement majority views in consultns
Councillor Munro was elected on 17.6% of first preference votes in the Morningside ward, taking until the seventh round of counting to meet the threshold.
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@CllrScottArthur says #CongestionCharge *will* be considered in future, but now is too early ... needs more thought & expected scotgov policy shifts
@CllrCMiller (Grn) therefore agrees to postpone this
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https://mobile.twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1621186654257004545
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The Scottish Government's "policy shift" is not due to be published until 2025. See page 6 of Reducing car use for a healthier, fairer and greener Scotland, which states:
Our route map sets out the actions we will take between now and 2030 to support each of these four behaviours. In the near-term these are predominantly actions to encourage alternative behaviours. We are, however, committed to exploring options to further discourage car use, including developing a Car Demand Management Framework, based on further research into equitable options to discourage car use, by 2025.
So, well and truly kicked into the long grass.
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Review today at TEC
Some random thoughts -
Currently watching TEC Committee
Plans without costings
‘A lot can be done without expensive engineering’
‘Lots of minor things need TRO processes’
‘14,000 roadworks per year’, “mind boggling” says SA
Lots of ‘some of the things we did in the past could have been done better’
Also ‘if we’d known North Bridge would be shut for so long, we could have done traffic surveys’
“Princes Street completely unacceptable” - trip hazards etc says Head of Place
‘Now working together more across CEC depts’
Etc etc
Glacial really
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Spokes thread
Edinwebcast
#7.1 #MobilityPlan & 7.2 #FutureStreets massive policy docs, will discuss together
-> https://t.co/RHstjVc7aIQ: Cllr
@jomowat
says local issues #potholes #accessibility should come firstA:
@CllrScottArthur
says #accessibility+#congestion+#emissions require fewer cars“
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