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Spezi 2023

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  1. jss
    Member

    Anyone planning to go to the Spezi special bike show at the end of the month in Lauchringen Germany
    Recumbents ,Velomobiles rowing bikes and other weird stuff

    I am cycling there from France along the Rhine if anyone is interested in joining up for some of the route

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    Should be my thing. Just back from SA though. Spezi maybe the last cycling event not to be obsessed by e-bikes? That alone makes it a worthwhile trip.
    (Or are you using one of your assisted bikes? :-)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. jss
    Member

    No ! On venerable Lightning P38 but as years advance an old man’s thoughts do turn toward electric assist more and more like looking forward to the comfort of a warm electric blanket at night which was something I never even thought about until I hit my mid 70’s
    Think the show might well be obsessed with cargo bikes though
    I do not thing many 2 wheel recumbents although the new owners are Wolf und Wolf who make a great recumbent two wheeler with a great Swiss price tag
    Rear end is P38 and front end Fuego like
    Glad you are back safe and sound from SA

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. LaidBack
    Member

    Wolf und Wolf who make a great recumbent two wheeler with a great Swiss price tag
    Rear end is P38 and front end Fuego like

    How can I resist! Suppose I should become a dealer...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. LaidBack
    Member

    They've got a lot of things right. Very ergonomic design and easy to ride too I reckon.
    https://www.wolfundwolf.ch/fr/velo-couche/modeles-et-configurateur/alpentourer-at1/238/at1-alpentourer-configurateur?c=119

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. nobrakes
    Member

    Looks a bit like a Catbike Musashi, but a little less extreme. I wonder how much it weighs. As a Fuego owner weight has never been a huge consideration though :)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. LaidBack
    Member

    @nobrakes That's true. Rode a Catbike once at Velovision magazine HQ around 2010. Quite nice.

    I see Velomobile world are looking for VM Ambassadors.
    Brilliant for a 'drive' to a known landing place with excellent energy use, comfort and interior carrying capacity. No need for electrics but the 'shark mobile' Quest in city does have a motor. @arellcat's only has battery for lights. Human power delivers easily when drag is so low.

    https://www.velomobileworld.com/i-want-to-be-an-ambassador/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. LaidBack
    Member

    From spotted....

    On a dreich day here in Dole in the Jura enroute to Spezi 2023 in Germany spotted a heavily laden Pederson piloted by mid-late age chap
    On eurovelo 6 here which ends up in Budapest so quite a few bike packers pass through here . Bit early in the season just now

    @jss - one day I need to visit that show. Keep us updated as it is a bit unique in the bike world. Think Azub are quite involved.
    Smooth travelling!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. LaidBack
    Member

    Latest @jss report... my emphasis(!)

    Afraid I spotted one too many cargo bikes cycling through Basel to Spezi.
    All driven at breakneck speed either by young bearded steam punkertypes or young frauleins with their kinder broods.
    Thinking these HGVs of the cycling world should be banned from cycle paths after experiencing several near misses from these hurtling large electrically assisted monster wheel barrows.
    At least not threatened by any velo torpedoes!
    BTW avoid Rhine radweg unless you have a fat bike!
    In their teutonic wisdom the Germans have thought it a great idea to cover it in thick pea gravel making it near impossible to cycle on a normal bike.
    Mainly the section from Breissach to Nueunberg.
    Better sticking to the silky smooth tarmac on the French side. Better wine too.

    Posted 12 months ago #
  10. LaidBack
    Member

    Had on the road back report from @jss

    Seems the bit of the Rhine radweg with atrocious surface had virtually destroyed the back tyre of his recliner.
    Had a spare GP 4000 though.

    He connected to a few people I knew only from doing business. Shows how small a world the European scene is. Glad we opted to stay in EU (mentally).

    - M5 owner Bjorn - he cycled from Hamburg to Edinburgh for EdFoC
    - Honda from Czech brand Azub. Their reclined tandem was reviewed by @dave.
    - Radical bags and trailers. We helped them out to distribute bags after Brexit prevented them selling direct to customers in GB. (They still could of course in N. Ireland.)
    - ICE and Urban Arrow didn't attend - event maybe too small for them now.
    - Veloe from Italy were there with Multi (we have demo).
    - Bernds still doing tandems. Inspiration for Circe Helios. Design has changed from when we had one for school run / family transport.
    - Black Iron Horse cargo trike - new Danish brand - only one in Edinburgh so far. Rear wheel steer.
    - Velomobiel and Velowerk plus 12 other vm makes we never dealt with. Yes 14 velomobile brands at Spezi!

    Website has neat links to what was on display and a few videos somewhere.

    https://en.spezialradmesse.de/

    Posted 11 months ago #
  11. boghall
    Member

    Spezi '23 photos.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0hGQOeMmGz8GHe

    Posted 11 months ago #
  12. LaidBack
    Member

    @boghall - good pictorial overview. @jss in at least one shot!
    Lot of creative engineering energy across cargo, tandem and recumbent models.
    (Reminded me that the Raderwerk Milan velomobile was our first 'really niche' build with Bicycle Works. @arellcat helped with German instructions as it really was just about of bits with bodywork in two parts!)

    Posted 11 months ago #
  13. LaidBack
    Member

    One spotted by @jss on his return trip. Not sure how easy that would be on Leith Walk cycle lanes! :-)

    Lightning P38 with windsock

    Posted 11 months ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    Streamliner American train vibes

    Posted 11 months ago #
  15. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Lightning F-40! Basically a proto-velomobile from a time before they were invented. Since it has neither solid floor nor multi-track configuration, we call it a streamliner, and Tim Brummer designed it for faster, longer rides like RAAM and PBP.

    Sure, it has pace of a velomobile and the lower rolling resistance of a bike, but it's tricky bordering on dangerous in cross-winds and is frankly completely impractical in any environment with traffic lights and stop lines.

    Posted 10 months ago #

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